I never said this list was a pro-pirate site. (I'm on a learning curve
myself, as to what's new.) Do what you wish, but if you are leaving
because you think TVRO on Yahoogroups is pro-pirate, you are MISTAKEN.

I went through a lot of crap in years past for taking an anti-pirate
stand when others didn't give a damn and just cared where the money
came from. I lost opportunities for being a goodie two shoes. Well,
that's that. 

This is not a pro-pirate list.  TVRO started a long time ago, and
possibly survived due to staying out of the muck.


Frank Kennedy - List Founder and List Moderator

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On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:51:14 -0400, "Stephen Smith"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sorry - didn't realize this was just another pirate supporting site.  I'll 
>remove my membership in this case.  And for the record, I was involved in TVRO 
>and FTA long before HBO and Disney was encrypted.  I didn't just wake up 
>yesterday and setup a dish.  If people want good information about what is out 
>there and what works, you don't contact a dealer anyway - you talk to those 
>who have working equipment. If you want to know what's on satellite, you talk 
>with those who are actually watching it.
>
>Finally, if a dealer is supporting the pirate sites, then that person supports 
>pirates - plane and simple.  I'll be gone from this pirate supporting site as 
>well.
>
>Steve
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: [email protected] 
>  To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:23 AM
>  Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>
>
>    
>  Nuts!
>
>  Lets stay on topic here. We are talking about getting a newbie started.
>
>  Both Jamal Sadoun and Tom Taylor can help him with advice and 
> reasonably-priced equipment. Both have been in business a long time. Jamal 
> came to satellite with an engineering degree and an MBA. Few in this industry 
> can make that claim. So Sadoun has depth that others probably lack. Tom has 
> sold and installed many systems. I stand by both of them.
>
>  Both know their stuff; they can help this fellow.
>
>  Rick
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  >From: Stephen Smith <[email protected]>
>  >Sent: Aug 10, 2010 12:56 AM
>  >To: [email protected]
>  >Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>  >
>  >Wihle I agree with all of what you said - completely honest the information 
> is. - The only issue I have with Sadoun is that he caters to pirates and I 
> personally would stay away from those people as far as possible and 
> especially the dealers who advertise on their sites, which Sadoun does, waht 
> with dish going after the end users now.
>  >
>  >The other guy I don't know. Rick Caylor is a good honest dealer and so is 
> Fridge FTA. Fridge site is fridgefta.info and rick caylor's site can be found 
> with a google search and both have forums which are completely loaded with 
> the information you're looking for.
>  >
>  >Note - a site which offers "bin" files and "IKS" information are some to 
> stay away from like the plague! Newcombers are sometimes taken in by claims 
> of things like FREE pay tv and such. It doesn't exist without tons of risks 
> and those risks are coming true even though many of them don't believe it.
>  >
>  >Steve
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: [email protected] 
>  > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
>  > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:45 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>  >
>  >
>  > 
>  > Holmebrian,
>  >
>  > I'd avoid used parts and Dishnetwork/Direct TV antennas. IMHO these would 
> be a false start and end up frustrating you.
>  >
>  > I'd also not bite off more than you could chew; at least at first, until 
> you get some experience with a working FTA system.
>  >
>  > Later on, if you want C band/ Ku band FTA; You will need at least a 5' 
> dish. ( I have four active dishes; three are 10' and one is 8 1/2'.)
>  >
>  > These dishes are tough to aim (you are trying to hit a series of targets 
> the size of a dime held at arm's length with dishes this size.)
>  >
>  > So I'd start easy with a 3 or 4' Ku FTA system. 
>  >
>  > Relatively easy to align and cheap.
>  >
>  > I'd buy all the bits new from some very good dealers like Jamal Sadoun or 
> Tom Taylor. Both have been in the business for a long time and are very 
> friendly to newcomers. Both have informative web sites.
>  >
>  > Tom Taylor's is:
>  >
>  > http://www.mpeg2fta.com/
>  >
>  > His current site offers a Traxis 3500 receiver, Winegard Dish .76m, and ,3 
> db lnbf for $159. All new; all designed to work together.
>  >
>  > Sadoun's site is:
>  >
>  > http://www.sadoun.com/
>  >
>  > He has similar offers.
>  >
>  > You want to get a system up and running and this is the best way to do it. 
> If you like what you get, expand your horizon's (pun) later on.
>  >
>  > Rick
>  > W9ZD
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > >From: Eugene's Satellite <[email protected]>
>  > >Sent: Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM
>  > >To: [email protected]
>  > >Subject: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >--- In [email protected], "holmebrian" <holmebr...@...> wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >> so would a satellite tv dish work for this or do i need a larger one?
>  > >> i was planning on using a direct tv dish.
>  > >> 
>  > >> any suggestions or should i have a few of them of different sizes?
>  > >>
>  > >
>  > >Hi Holmebrian,
>  > >
>  > >If you want to get just FTA on Ku band, whether
>  > >if it MPEG2, DVB or MP4(HD)the smallest dish
>  > >you could get is 24 inch Dish 500. I tried it
>  > >and it worked. You can aim it at DN's satellite,
>  > >but most of their DN channels are blocked, accept
>  > >their promo ads for DN. I can still see it on
>  > >my 24 inch DISH 500. NOW, with that you would have
>  > >to consider which LNB you would want that fits with
>  > >the dish. Either just FTA LNB or DN LNB. Mine works
>  > >either way, but NOT for DirectTV. The DirectTV LNB
>  > >would NOT work with Dish 500.
>  > >
>  > >Now if you want to get both C/Ku band, FTA, then
>  > >you would need to have a bigger dish. Like the other
>  > >members said, 6 foot dish. This depends on your inviorment
>  > >at your home. Such as spaces and the area where you live in.
>  > >
>  > >Hope this helps. I thought of to help out with infos.
>  > >from what I've done. 
>  > >
>  > >Good luck, Brian.
>  > >
>  > >Eugene
>  > >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > >From: Eugene's Satellite <[email protected]>
>  > >Sent: Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM
>  > >To: [email protected]
>  > >Subject: [TVRO] Re: satellite dishes diffrent sizes and types
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >--- In [email protected], "holmebrian" <holmebr...@...> wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >> so would a satellite tv dish work for this or do i need a larger one?
>  > >> i was planning on using a direct tv dish.
>  > >> 
>  > >> any suggestions or should i have a few of them of different sizes?
>  > >>
>  > >
>  > >Hi Holmebrian,
>  > >
>  > >If you want to get just FTA on Ku band, whether
>  > >if it MPEG2, DVB or MP4(HD)the smallest dish
>  > >you could get is 24 inch Dish 500. I tried it
>  > >and it worked. You can aim it at DN's satellite,
>  > >but most of their DN channels are blocked, accept
>  > >their promo ads for DN. I can still see it on
>  > >my 24 inch DISH 500. NOW, with that you would have
>  > >to consider which LNB you would want that fits with
>  > >the dish. Either just FTA LNB or DN LNB. Mine works
>  > >either way, but NOT for DirectTV. The DirectTV LNB
>  > >would NOT work with Dish 500.
>  > >
>  > >Now if you want to get both C/Ku band, FTA, then
>  > >you would need to have a bigger dish. Like the other
>  > >members said, 6 foot dish. This depends on your inviorment
>  > >at your home. Such as spaces and the area where you live in.
>  > >
>  > >Hope this helps. I thought of to help out with infos.
>  > >from what I've done. 
>  > >
>  > >Good luck, Brian.
>  > >
>  > >Eugene
>  > >
>  >
>  > Richard A. Rikoski
>  > [email protected]
>  >
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>
>  Richard A. Rikoski
>  [email protected]
>
>
>  
>
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