I really like that, Brooks.  I was worried that this type of page
might be stopped by popup blockers, but I suppose it works because
you're using a button and not a link (please confirm).



On Mar 21, 1:17 pm, Brooks Bennett <bsbenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I whipped up a quick and dirty fix. Need to clean it up more, but it
> works (this demo is subject to come down in the very near future)...
>
> The page is:http://tweetchat.com/iframe
>
> Load it into an iFrame with the following tacky script:
>
> <iframe src="http://tweetchat.com/iframe/"; style="height:400px; width:
> 800px; border: 10px dotted pink;"></iframe>
>
> All I did was build the authorization link, but have it open in a new
> child window via javascript. Set your application to have a callback
> URL of a child page that handles the returned information, refreshes
> the parent window and then closes itself.
>
> It is the best thing I could come up with on the quick, but at least
> there will be an easy way (hey even I could dream it up) to balance
> security with functionality...
>
> Brooks
>
> On Mar 21, 12:33 pm, Ivan Kirigin <ivan.kiri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Scott is correct here.
>
> > As a policy, web sites should never allow sign in through an iframe,
> > as even the minority of users smart enough to verify the source URL is
> > twitter.com can't verify it.
>
> > Ivanhttp://tipjoy.com
>
> > On Mar 20, 11:24 pm, Scott Carter <scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I think Ivan's suggestion could answer the concern about the case
> > > where a user needs to enter a username/password:
> > > "If not signed in, a new window could load with the regular OAuth
> > > process. "
>
> > > For the case where the user is already logged in, there doesn't appear
> > > to be any risk here.  Consider the scenario where the IFRAME is
> > > populating a page from a site pretending to be Twitter with an Allow/
> > > Deny button.   By clicking "Allow", nothing bad can happen.  Twitter
> > > isn't Allowing anything in this case since it wasn't their page to
> > > begin with.
>
> > > FYI - I think my case is different than Ivan's since he is discussing
> > > a widget whereas my app lives entirely in the IFRAME.   The  callback
> > > from Twitter after authorization would simply cause the IFRAME to
> > > redirect back to a page on bigtweet.com where I could then present a
> > > different (logged in) view for the user.
>
> > > Joshua's suggestion would work, but providing IFRAME support with a
> > > callback URL would save the user two steps - needing to close the
> > > Authorization window, and clicking the Complete Connection button.
>
> > > Scott
>
> > > On Mar 20, 5:50 pm, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > If you have the approval process take place in the iframe there is no 
> > > > way to
> > > > for the user to actually verify they are interacting with twitter. if 
> > > > they
> > > > are not logged into twitter already you are then asking users to enter
> > > > username/password on a potentially unsafe site and opening up to 
> > > > fishing.
>
> > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 16:29, Joshua Perry <j...@6bit.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > The interesting thing is, that you could omit the callback URL in your
> > > > > application registration with Twitter.  On your site when the user 
> > > > > clicks
> > > > > the "connect twitter" button you would go and grab a request token 
> > > > > and pop a
> > > > > new window with that request token in the URI like usual.  The user 
> > > > > would
> > > > > click accept and since there is not a callback URL Twitter will say 
> > > > > "You can
> > > > > close this window and complete the Connect process".  Waiting on your
> > > > > webpage would be the "complete connection" button which, when 
> > > > > clicked, would
> > > > > request Twitter to convert the request token into an access token.
>
> > > > > Instead of popping a window I don't know why you couldn't load the 
> > > > > Twitter
> > > > > authorization page into an IFrame, but the message to "close this 
> > > > > window"
> > > > > may be a bit confusing to the user.
>
> > > > > This flow is the same as a desktop application has to use to 
> > > > > accomplish an
> > > > > OAuth connection and should work the similarly well with a web 
> > > > > application.
>
> > > > > Josh
>
> > > > > Ivan Kirigin wrote:
>
> > > > >> I'd love to be able to do this also, and have mentioned it off the
> > > > >> list.
>
> > > > >> Imagine a "Twitter Connect" button, which would be a tiny iframe
> > > > >> loaded from twitter.com. If signed in, the token exchange could take
> > > > >> place right there. If not signed in, a new window could load with the
> > > > >> regular OAuth process. The callback in the button would be to a tiny
> > > > >> iframe acting as a confirmation of the success, loaded by the
> > > > >> consumer.
>
> > > > >> There is a diminished phishing risk, because the widget isn't asking
> > > > >> for your password. Only the new window would.
>
> > > > >> The only question is how the rest of the widget gets the notification
> > > > >> that the OAuth access grant has taken place. My thought is that the
> > > > >> widget could just ping the web service to see if things are 
> > > > >> integrated
> > > > >> properly. Cross domain iframe communication is a HUGE pain in the 
> > > > >> ass.
> > > > >> You can get around it if the twitter iframe loaded a designated 
> > > > >> hidden
> > > > >> iframe from the 3rd party.
>
> > > > >> Alternatively, you could ask the user to refresh the widget /
> > > > >> bookmarklet.
>
> > > > >> Generally, I'd like to see some standard buttons from twitter, so
> > > > >> normalize the OAuth experience. You can see on the top of
> > > > >>http://tipjoy.com
> > > > >> a banner we made that uses twitter fonts and colors.
>
> > > > >> Best,
> > > > >> Ivan
> > > > >>http://tipjoy.com
>
> > > > >> ps check out our twitter payments api:http://tipjoy.com/api
> > > > >> feedback welcome!
>
> > > > >> On Mar 20, 3:00 pm, Scott Carter <scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >>> I'm starting to look at the OAuth process and had a question for the
> > > > >>> OAuth folks at Twitter.
>
> > > > >>> My application BigTweet is invoked via a bookmarklet and displays as
> > > > >>> an IFRAME on any web page that a Twitter user happens to be
> > > > >>> browsing.    Ideally I would like to be able to complete the entire
> > > > >>> OAuth process within the IFRAME (for initial login).
>
> > > > >>> I believe that Twitter recently added measures to prevent framing of
> > > > >>> their site to stop phishing attacks.   Does this extend to the OAuth
> > > > >>> approval page?   Could an exception be made for the OAuth page when
> > > > >>> invoked from a registered application presenting a valid Request
> > > > >>> Token?  If so, could this be documented (perhaps in the OAuth 
> > > > >>> Twitter
> > > > >>> FAQ)?
>
> > > > >>> The authorization page at Twitter appears to have a fairly small
> > > > >>> content section (with Deny/Allow buttons, etc), which could fit 
> > > > >>> into a
> > > > >>> reasonably sized IFRAME.  If you are agreeable to allow IFRAME
> > > > >>> support, would it be possible to standardize on content dimensions
> > > > >>> (for IFRAME sizing) and document this as well?
>
> > > > >>> Thanks for considering my request.
>
> > > > >>> Scotthttp://twitter.com/scott_carter
>
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