See also 
https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/dev/tr35-dates.html#Using_Time_Zone_Names

As to “Alberta time”,  outside of where local abbreviations are available, the 
generic location name may be used.   Examples at 
https://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#r_zones/da// (These are examples, not 
production data). “ Edmonton-tid” which I think is “Edmonton time”

-s

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> El oct 6, 2026, a la(s) 6:44 p.m., Paul Eggert via tz <[email protected]> escribió:
> 
> On 2026-10-06 12:19, Robert Bastian wrote:
>> The changes linked above effectively ignore TZDB's decision to model these
>> changes as new standard times.
> 
> Thanks for explaining. Some more comments plus a couple of questions.
> 
> As I understand it, after November 1 neither CLDR nor TZDB will use the 
> English-language abbreviations suggested by the respective regional 
> governments. For the new timekeeping we have:
> 
>  0   1   2   3
> -07 MST PDT PCT America/Vancouver
> -06 CST MDT ABT America/Edmonton
> -06 CST MDT ??? America/Inuvik
> -05 EST CDT MBT America/Winnipeg
> 
> where column 0 is the UT offset, column 1 is the abbreviation that TZDB will 
> use, column 2 is what CLDR will use, and column 3 is what the respective 
> governments suggest (NWT does not suggest so I listed "???".)
> 
> This disagreement is unfortunate but I don't see a simple solution other than 
> maybe just going with column 0 in TZDB for now. Although columns 1 and 2 are 
> both compatible with a lot of existing software and standards (e.g., Internet 
> RFC 5322), neither column is likely to match what people will say; and 
> although column 3 attempts to avoid that confusion it is at the expense of 
> compatibility and it regionalizes abbreviations in a way that will likely 
> have significant problems.
> 
> I don't see anything in bleeding-edge CLDR mentioning "ABT" or "Alberta 
> Time", or similarly for the other government-suggested abbreviations or 
> names, so it looks like CLDR is also holding off on column 3 for now. Will 
> this month's new CLDR stick with the name "Mountain Daylight Time" for 
> Alberta's timekeeping, and will it allow "Mountain Time" as a generic name 
> for this new timekeeping even though Alberta doesn't have alternatives for 
> summer and winter? And what will CLDR do for "Mountain Standard Time" in 
> Alberta - will that string be forbidden in Alberta, or never generated? Or am 
> I misreading the tables again?
> 
> Also, it seems the phrase "Pacific Time" is uniquely problematic here, as it 
> exactly matches the legal name for -07 in BC whereas CLDR uses it as a 
> generic name for both -08 and -07. We won't have this problem with "Manitoba 
> Time" and "Alberta Time", though we will have other problems.

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