Bill: I guess I'm venting. I feel I've memorized most everything that I need but when it comes to the SP-EDIT and SP-KILL things to handle spooler troubles, it always seems to be a hunt & peck issue. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. That was reinforced with the AP-PRO manual labeling it as Spooler Warfare (page 13 under STARTPTR). It also uses the word lobotomy.
D3 apparently doesn't appear to be any different except that you have a harder time killing jobs that have already left D3 and are now on the NT box. They're unaccessable by D3 as they are truly printed by then. But the commands didn't appear to change except the inclusion of the DEV-MAKE kind of commands. When I discovered the PEQS file I was hoping that it would be like the _HOLD_ file in UD. Wrong. It was useless to help me manage the jobs. So I Wrote my own SP-JOBS borrowing from my 26 years of Microdata and got most of the features done, albeit with difficulty with changing form-queues. I have one MVBase client and if they ever decide, I will switch them to D3 in an instant. Thanks. Mark Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [U2] mvBase spooler > Mark: > > I'm surprised you say this. The only "issue" I've found with the D3 spooler > is it uses a hybrid "D3" file to store the output instead of allowing > spooler jobs to be configured to go to an O/S directory. > > MvBase it's an R83 extension from Mentor and probably only exists because > D3NT couldn't get it right for 10 years. So, it is what you expect. > > In D3 one doesn't have to deal with multiple files or runoff or loosing > control characters when using the simple sp-edit command options (b, c, > k)...but of course mvBase does (I'm pretty sure). > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Johnson > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 6:27 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [U2] mvBase spooler > > > > > > I work with U2 and non U2 MV's (MVBase, D3, MCD, most natives) and SP-EDIT > > is a pain. It's so old school it's a shame D3/MVBase still use it in its > > Jurrasic Pick incarnation. Don't get me started on all the combinations of > > options to handle any problems. One of the manuals even refers to it as > > Spooler Warfare. > > > > I have a utility that converts any SP-EDIT hold file to a file-level item > > for easy editing. It uses the SP-EDIT spool=F option. Some systems create > > multiple records and others assemble them into one. > > > > These file-level items are RUNOFF records. Thus to re-print the hold file > > with any changes your system must have RUNOFF. If not, you can remove the > > embedded simple RUNOFF commands (lines that start with a > > <period>) and just > > convert them to form-feeds. I think _HOLD_ matches lines to the SETPTR > > settings and may not have char(12)'s. > > > > The filename that you *are* looking for is called PEQS and while you can > > type LIST<space>PEQS the data isn't really usable data. That's > > why they have > > LISTPEQS. > > > > I also have a utility that emulates the SP-JOBS of Microdata > > which I believe > > is the best spooler manager. It only replicates the SP-JOBS of hold-file > > management and not SP-STATUS of device management. That is a real > > different > > thing on native versus network versions of D3/MvBase. > > > > Hopefully this helps. > > Mark Johnson > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Allen E. Elwood (CA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:43 PM > > Subject: [U2] mvBase spooler > > > > > > > Does anybody know in a Raining data mvBase system, *is* there a file for > > the > > > spooled jobs, and if so, what the name might be? I really truly hate > > > SP-EDIT and have a spooler that I wrote for Unidata that I would like to > > > port over. > > > > > > > > > Allen E. Elwood > > > Senior Programmer Analyst > > > Direct (818) 361-5251 > > > Fax (818) 361-5251 > > > Cell (818) 359-8162 > > > Home (818) 361-7217 > > > ------- > > > u2-users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
