Well....that might be believable with the excepton being that the majority portion of IBM hasn't a clue as to what U2 is...
It's not just U2 sadly though, AS400 hasn't a clue about RS6000, and worse with RS6000 not fully understanding those items that can overlay it, ... It's a prime example of vertical (rather than horizontal) training at its worst.. ~ Debster ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm". -Syrus Publilius www.infinite-systems.net -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of phil walker Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:57 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers Conspiracy Theory: Maybe IBM does not want a future MV environment, maybe they hope everyone will go to DB2...if so, then I hope it works. I think more likely they would go to Microsoft, where information is readily available. ;-).... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Monday, 13 November 2006 6:45 a.m. To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers Exactly ! A good knowledge flow opens people's eyes and creates opportunities. And it's not just an end user issue. Without knowledge flow where will the next generation of vars come from? Who will bring new blood and investment? How will we encourage developers into our market ? How much more difficult are we making it to sell mv based solutions to end users by obscuring the full potential of what they are buying ? How many times have mv-invested companies resorted to other solutions because they didn't unow that their existing systems had the capabilities to deliver what they needed all along? It is in all our interests - users, vars, consultants - to raise and keep fresh the profile of this technology. That begins by making sure people out there can understand what it can achieve for them. I remember an speech years ago by a mv vendor proudly saying that 80% of his business was repeat business. He saw that as customer care. I saw it as lack of outreach. Who was right? Brian -----Original Message----- From: "Ken Wallis"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 11/11/06 23:42:25 To: "u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org"<u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers Chuck Stevenson wrote: > Interestingly, guys like me don't care, because vars like Strategy > Seven are nice to us. It would be end users with curmudgeonly vars > that would need a user group to make this end run. I still think > someone who cares should submit a U2UG enhancement request and others > should second it. Otherwise IBM only hears about you through the very > var who is blocking you. And the odd thing is that it is VARs like S7 who make money from their generic skills in the database platforms rather than from working in specific vertical markets with their applications. You would have thought S7 were the sort of VAR who might consider themselves in danger of losing revenue by working to get this information out. Clearly, however, they must realise that access to information helps users understand what is possible and want to make use of the technology. Cheers, Ken ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
