I should add a comment to your post regarding the user changing a reporting
column.

This borders on a very slippery topic regarding the user's access to the
system. In my travels, many systems prevent their access to TCL. Those that
allow access only give the users a very, very limited set of commands like
LIST and SORT and perhaps SELECt but never EDIT or BASIC etc.

Plus the user's natural inhibitions prevent them from learning (retaining)
what they may see us typing.

So I guess my question is what kind of 'user' could actually change a
reporting column to begin with. In many of my clients' systems there are
formal, menu-driven reports with specific indicators in the headings for
report identification. The users who make their own English report never,
never use HEADING so that would be my first sign of a renegade report.

I don't use EVAL or other live dict items and I can't imagine the most
serious non-MV user crossing over that line. We programmers, having the keys
to the entire castle, sometimes feel that the users are only one small step
behind us. Everytime I think that they're near me, I'm reminded of how
contained they actually are.

For over a quarter of a century I've been trying to show users the
simplicity of creating their own reports in English. I've found that you can
lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink. I've seen users
decline retaining education after attending Crystal Reports classes, Excel
Classes, Powerpoint classes and even MS Access classes. I don't think they
will take a liking to our dictionaries.

My 2 cents
Mark Johnson
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From: "Boydell, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: [U2] A question of dictionaries.


> We are implementing source control here and I was wondering, in light of
> data protection and source control best practice and the US list members
> experience of Sarbanes-Oxely, if anyone is currently running their
> production systems using OS level (D_filename) read-only dictionaries.
> I know that EVAL and SQL NEXT.ACCUMULATOR statements which write back to
> the dictionary will fail but have you encountered any other gotcha's? Or
> if you have contemplated the idea of locking dictionaries, but abandoned
> it, why?
> I'm also curious to find out (as Australia legislation has been
> influenced by it) what the implications as far as SOX is concerned where
> a user can potentially [if they gain access to a writable dictionary]
> change a reporting column, or doesn't it go that far?
> Cheers,
> Stuart Boydell
>
>
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