Colin:

The backups seem to take about the same time with or without UD shutdown, on 
the development server.  I just ran a backup on our UD
directory and it was 1Gb, compressed to 120Mb, and took about 5 1/2 minutes to 
create.  On one of our client's D3 server, the
uncompressed file-save, of the same data, took about 40 seconds and was about 
200Mb.  I took a look at another one of our clients
and their D3 backup was 1.1Gb of a 5-6Gb database, on Windows, and it took 6 
minutes to create.  In one of our beta accounts,
someone created a 12Mb hold entry and somehow Windows showed there were 11.7Gb 
in the _HOLD_ directory when the item, created on
6/25/07, showed as 12Mb in Windows Explorer.  I deleted that item and this 
problem disappeared (where'd that come from?).  I suppose
this is just one more of the multitude of problems I've got to keep my eye on!  
Anyway...

We don't have any transaction processing.  The timing starts when the NTBackup 
starts, after the dbpause.  The timing ends when the
dbresume is executed, not when it completes.

I've been researching backup software and it all seems to point back to 
Symantec (jeeze!).  I was hoping someone would have
experience with a high-speed backup product that would backup open files for 
U2.  Since our application has a module that uses
ASP.NET we really don't want to shut down the dbms for very long (this is more 
important than backuping up open files and not having
a "pristine" backup).

Thanks,

Bill

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>Bill;
>
>How long does the backup take on the server if you shutdown UD 
>first? Just trying to rule out a problem with NTBackup before
>getting carried away.
>
>Do you have transaction processing? DBPause waits for any 
>writes to complete before it actually stops anything. It
>may wait for the entire transaction.  Along that line -
>would there be anything else that may be holding up DBPause?
>
>To answer your question - we've mostly used Backup Exec
>(there were some issues with older versions of UD). We don't
>have anything critical running overnight so we usually leave
>UD running and set the "backup open files" and "backup
>without a lock" options set. Not sure if it's any faster (I
>think NTBackup is a pared down version of Backup Exec).
>
>We've also had clients use Arcserve successfully, and we even 
>have one client that backs up to a server on the NET (don't
>remember what that product is called).
>
>hth
>Colin Alfke
>Calgary Canada
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>________________________________
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>From:  Bill Haskett
>
>Bill:
>
>I have the entire backup process scripted and the main script 
>is called from a
>configured Windows scheduled task.  Nothing about the
>backup process is done from within UD.  We have a VB script 
>included, called
>by this main backup script, that deletes old backup
>files older than the number of days passed in via the command line.
>
>Bill
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