Colin:
 
After reviewing this with IBM we've concluded that because I'm trying to 
install UD
onto an already configured and running SBS server, and because the Windows 
security
framework is so complex, there must be some security "object" within the Windows
security framework that wasn't configured which will allow UD to be installed.
 
Consequently, we're informing our customer to get another server to install UD 
onto.
This is what they should do anyway.
 
Bill


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From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:08 PM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server



Thanks David.

The service is set up to allow interaction with desktop.  I'll log a support 
call
tomorrow with IBM.

A Windows friend of mine said SBS isn't supposed to be used as an application 
server,
so it didn't surprise him that this was causing a problem.

Bill



From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:46 PM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server


Colin:
 
I'll call them up tomorrow and see if this user can log into the console...the
machine is two thousand miles away.  :-)
 
Bill

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Jordan
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:11 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server

Hi Bill

This is an old problem with UniVerse on SBS that only those with admin
rights could login and I am sure it had been resolved.  Chase up IBM
support.

Other option is to change the services login for the UD telnet server.  Try
allowing service to interact with desktop.

Regards

David Jordan


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Haskett [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:59 PM
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Tim:

It says "This user can log on to: All Computers".

Bill

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:47 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server

Bill,

What is the setup for the id in:
Active directory for users and computers -->
     account tab ----> log on to button.

Tim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Colin Alfke
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:51 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server

Bill;

Like Tim said - see if that user can actually log into the console/server.
That's really what telnet does....

hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Haskett

Tim:

Thanks.  This is an SBS server and U2 is installed onto it.  We created a
user for me and I'm a member of the "domain admins" group.  I can log in.  I
created another user for our use and made them a member of the "UniData"
group.  This group was created under the server management option "Security
Group Management".  It was created with a "Global" scope and a group type of
"Security".

I followed Colin's advice but still no luck.  I've passed this information
on to their administrator and will see what he decides.

If you think of anything I've missed please let me know.  Thanks again.

Bill

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:23 PM
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Tim:

Thanks.  I've created the user via UniAdmin.  It's a domain user, built like 
other
users created.  The user is allowed onto the application.  But I get this 
message
after entering the name and password.  When I add the "domain admins" group to 
the
user they can login.

I'm thinking there's something else required, and the Windows administrator did
something unusual, but can't find it in the documentation, nor where to look.  
I've
spoken with two different MSCEs and we couldn't figure out the problem (they 
didn't
set up the machine).  The administrator who did set up the machine did as much 
as he
could.

I hate to think I will end up informing our client they need another server, 
though
they probably do, and can't really install onto SBS.

If you have any other ideas, please let me know.

Thanks again,

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Stokes

I have seen this problem. Check your login id to make sure you are
allow to login to the U2 server.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:48 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server

Colin:

I followed the exact steps and still have the login problem.  When I look at 
the in
Administrative Tools I see there is no "Local Security Policy"  but there was a
"Domain controller security policy".  In there I added the appropriate groups 
(noted
as 'domain\group') to both local policies you mentioned, beneath user rights
assignment.

However, this didn't seem to work.  Lord knows what the problem is, as we're 
trying
to load onto an already setup and configured system.

Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Colin Alfke
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:38 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UD and SBS Server

Bill;

There are a couple of permissions that non-admin users need.

Add the policies "Allow log on locally" and "Access this computer from the
network" to your UniDataUsers group.

In W2K3, select Administrative Tools/Local Security Policy and Domain
Controller Security Policy, expand Security Settings, expand Local Policies,
expand User Rights Assignment. Under the Policy column select "Allow log on
locally" and add your group (or Users or Domain Users). Again select "Access
this computer from the network" and add your group.

To refresh policies without a server restart press Start/Run and at the
Open: box enter gpupdate and press OK button.

hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Haskett

I've installed UD v7.1.9 on a Windows 2003 SBS server.  The matrix says
6.1.7 - 7.1.6 is certified on Win 2K3 SBS; it doesn't mention either 7.1.9
or 7.1.12.  Unless I add a user to the Domain Admins group I cannot access
via telnet.

I created a group for "UniDataUsers" that has full control of all accounts,
our application directory, and the "E:\IBM\ud71" directory.  I added a new
user and added the UniDataUsers group to them.  I cannot login via telnet.
I followed the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/292536

...but this doesn't seem to help.  The error I receive is:

Welcome to DataTrust Telnet Server
login: AsiOffice
Password:
Your account has restrictions that prevent you from logging on at this time.
Please try again later.

UniData telnet session terminating...

This is the first time I've installed UD onto an SBS server.  Does anyone
know what this problem is?  Thanks.

Bill Haskett
Advantos Systems, Inc. 
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