Hi Laure

We run UV 10.1.18 on Win 2003 SP2 and have no problems pointing all our
users to one account. We also prevent them from going to TCL and have
them use a custom menu system. Overall, we have 180+ users logging in
daily from all over the world using our internal WAN and Citrix.

To manage security, I put users into logical windows groups and use NTFS
permissions on the various UV file folders to give or deny access to
data as applicable. To get the users to login to the correct account I
do not, however, use their windows Profile (AD or otherwise). Instead I
setup a UV.LOGINS record for each user. This is accessible through
UniAdmin under the Network Services/Telnet menu. Click the Users tab and
then the Add User button. Use their Windows login ID, in uppercase, as
the user name. 

If it is a domain login, put the domain name and the path to the account
that you want them to use in the Domains area. If it is a local login id
(created on the server which hosts UV), then use the Local Machines
area. Either way, it is important that it is all in upper case and the
account path is used, not the account name. Then under the parameters
tab, click the UV Account radio button so UV will use the local info and
not the home path. 

Using this method does not change permissions on the account when a user
is setup and does not make the system any less secure. It also gives you
more control over who has access to your DB if you do not have direct
access to the Windows profiles.

I hope this helps,

Andrew Mack
Snr DB Mgr.
New Zealand Defence Force



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Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:20 p.m.
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Subject: RE: [U2] Windows 2003 server security on new users

Hi Bill,

I'm not a server/network person so please bear with me. 

We don't want our users to ever go to TCL. There is custom coding in the
login paragraph to prevent this. Users get into a customized menu
system.

We also don't want the users to pick and choose the accounts they
access; so, we have been setting them up with the account path in the
profile tab, under the home folder, local path. This worked like a charm
on Win2000, but ever since we upgraded to Win2003, creating new users
resets the permissions to the selected account path as soon as we save
the new user with that path as their local path. 

So the path is not truly to a user profile, but to their "home
directory". Since they share directories (we only have so many Universe
accounts), we don't want the permissions to be reset. 

I hope this makes more sense. If there is a better way to do this,
please let me know: we've been doing this by rote and are obviously
missing a piece of the equation.

Thanks!


Laure Hansen,
City of Redwood City
Information Technology
1017 Middlefield Road
Redwood City, CA 94063
Tel 650-780-7087
Cell 650-207-3235
Fax 650-556-9204
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:21 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Windows 2003 server security on new users

Laure:

Are you saying you set permissions to a UV account (e.g.
E:\OurUV\Production).  Then, when you create a new user and place this
directory in their "profile" tab the permissions change?  Why are the
roaming user profiles maintained in a UV dbms directory?

Doesn't it seem reasonable that the "profile" directory is altered as
you describe?
I'm wondering if these profiles shouldn't be maintained in another
directory like "E:\UVProfiles\%username%".

Bill

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IT-Laure Hansen
>Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:59 AM
>To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: [U2] Windows 2003 server security on new users
>
>Universe 10.2 on Win2003 server SP2 (but was happening before SP2 as
>well): our set-up requires that users get created with the path to a 
>valid Universe account in the user's profile tab. As soon as I do this,

>using the admin login on the server, the original permissions on the 
>account are removed and all that remains are administrator and the new 
>user. This is not acceptable, as Universe requires wide-open security 
>(the effect of this is that other users can no longer even log to the 
>account).
>
>I've been creating new users after hours because of this, and it's 
>starting to drive me nuts!
>
>Does anyone know of a fix, either via change to Windows security 
>policies, hotfixes etc?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Laure Hansen,
>City of Redwood City
>Information Technology
>1017 Middlefield Road
>Redwood City, CA 94063
>Tel 650-780-7087
>Cell 650-207-3235
>Fax 650-556-9204
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