In Jerry's case, you have IT director that has spent 10-20 years in windows world, he doesn't like UniVerse and is not open to learning its capabilities and the good tools that are in the market for it. He went to a IBM conference once and that was before I joined the company over 7 years ago. Add a young 20-30 something network administrator that knows little about Unix/Linux and even less about UniVerse that is totally against anything not Windows and a 20 something Windows programmer who has said repeatedly that UniVerse is old technology and they bombard the owner of the company, well you get the picture. Add the fact that only the IT director has a clue as to the business logic and what he knows relates more to the product the company sells and supports which is window's based then the business logic the drives the internals of the business and the other 2 know very little. It is a train wreck waiting to happen and it did factor in on my decision to leave the company for greener pastures. Course better schools, warmer weather were the main attraction and after 6 months I can honestly say, new company is great to work for.
Brenda L Price UniVerse Programmer Rapid Response Team Market America, Inc. Greensboro, NC > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2- > us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:21 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster > > I guess the basic premise of your argument is that the PHB's are > listening to 90-day-wonder windows programmers, and they encouraged > said > PHB's that they needed to replace the UV database. > > I don't buy it. > > Even PHB's don't go spending millions of dollars on SAP just because > their 25 year old windows programmers don't think UV is productive. > > In the case of Shane Co. the PHB's decided to spend millions of dollars > -- and no one bothered to do an ROI study? Or it was fabricated by a > bunch of idiots without any concept of reality? > > At some point, Shane Co. must have been doing good. They were > expanding. It seems a short time ago I heard they opened a new store > here in Orlando, FL. (Or maybe they weren't doing that good after all > and the expansion was a feeble attempt at opening new markets to > generate revenue.) > > During this expansion, one of the PHB's must have said "we AREN'T > getting what we need from IT; let's look into other solutions". Or > maybe they said, "we CAN'T get what we need". (The former speaking to > an unwillingness to address needs; the latter, lacking capability to do > so.) > > And this brings me back to my original question: what was Shane Co.'s > REAL reason for deciding to migrate away from UV? If Universe is > supposed to be a superior environment for building and deploying > business solutions, why couldn't their existing IT staff deliver? Why? > > It's too easy to characterize management decisions like this as > "frivolous" or "political". But it's irresponsible to ignore the true > business reasons behind these decisions, dooming ourselves to repeat > history's mistakes. > > rex > > JPB-U2UG wrote: > > I can't speak for everyone but if it's anything like at our place, > it's > > due to lack of education. UniVerse is contains all of our business > logic > > and Microsoft is used for our presentation layer, desktop and web. We > > have 3 programmers working on UniVerse with an average age of 55. In > our > > windows area we have 10 programmers with an average age of 25. Most > of > > the people coming out of the colleges and universities only know one > > platform Microsoft. They are taught nothing... > ------- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
