I'd like to also suggest nSQL and mvSQL
Why not say SQL ? And then add n for nested or mv for multi-value
And we can just say "this is our BRAND of SQL" it's SQL with added
features.
In a message dated 3/24/2010 7:30:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ron_hutchi...@hotmail.com writes:
As much as we can't seem to get away from referring to TCL, how about
MVTCL or mvTCL!
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:16:06 -0400
From: jcan...@optonline.net
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Pick Pocket Guide
My bad on the mid-cap drop; sorry.
For TCL/ECL, maybe mvCommand or mvControl?
I didn't say it will be easy or even worthwhile for the experts; but, I
think it must help in some way to be known as the gurus in this market
(better billable rates, makes you more desirable as a consultant, etc.).
If
there are five authors (for five platforms) and they each write 20% of
the
book and that book has the potential of selling 5 times more (for five
platforms instead of one), essentially, you are producing a book for 1/5
of
the cost. I know we can really work these numbers so in the end it will
cost nothing to write [like the days we work in a year]. I know it's
still
a tough sell, but, maybe even include some ad-supported areas within the
book (as long as it doesn't compromise objectivity concerning the
platforms). I think the major platform vendors should also contribute to
get this done as it directly benefits them the most.
Recently, I have moved away from the MultiValue market [not by choice].
I
must say that I'd have a difficult time in getting any 'buy-in' though on
what I still consider an incredibly powerful database due to almost a
complete lack of visibility. How do you promote a technology that hasn't
had a book based on it in quite a long time? If the platform vendors,
tool
and integration companies, etc. still believe that they have a good
story to
tell, it's time to ante up and place your bets already.
Regards,
Jim
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Clifton
Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:19 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Pick Pocket Guide
Well, the terminology issue is something we (Spectrum magazine in
particular) can promote since we are already committed to promoting the
term
MultiValue (note the mid-cap casing) and the MultiValue Logo. We just
add
such terms to our Style and Usage Guide and use them in the magazine.
Side note: Is there any interest in us having our Style and Usage Guide
available online?
I'm interested in hearing what folks would find an acceptable term for
TCL/ECL/etc.
As to the idea of of a generic book, groups of experts, etc., that sounds
like a fame and glory no profit Open Source kind of thing. A lot of the
experts you might want to attract are dudes and dudettes trying to make a
living. That goes back to some of Tony's comments. How could that be made
worthwhile for said experts to forgo revenue producing time to produce a
non-profit book?
Considering some other Open Source documentation efforts, I'm not saying
it
can't be done. I'm just challenging everyone to present detailed ideas
for
how it could be made to work.
Regards,
Clif
On Mar 23, 2010, at 6:09 PM, James Canale, Jr. wrote:
I think it would be great do something like this.
Multivalue Query [mvQuery]
Multivalue Basic [mvBasic]
Multivalue PROC [mvPROC]
>
I also think it would be great if someone could write a piece of a book
that
is very generic (keep it at a 20,000 foot view) which covers each major
topic area. Once complete, a group of experts-at-large in the various
flavors add platform specific details. When complete, one or more of
the
> know-it-alls [like some of the gurus on this list] combine the common
parts,
while leaving the unique areas in place. Basically, a wiki to book
transformation. Many of the books sold today have two, three, and even
more
authors (especially the technically oriented books). Something like
this
could reduce the work required (just doing a piece of the whole) and
increase the potential market (supports most platforms) for sales. I
see
a
lot of talent on this list that can pull something like this off, it
just
needs a great leader (and I see many of them here too).
Regards,
Jim
>
-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Clifton
Oliver
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:39 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Pick Pocket Guide
In Spectrum magazine, we use the term MultiValue Basic to talk about
the
programming language in articles that are not platform specific. I put
it
in
the style and usage guide for just the reasons being brought up here. I
don't see any reason not to add other MultiValue generic terms.
MultiValue
Query comes to mind. I'm open to suggestions about that and other
terms.
Post them here, or if you'd rather not, just send them to me at
edi...@intl-spectrum.com (or my regular e-mail address).
>
Regards,
Clif
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