Bet you had ones AND zeros .. We couldn't afford the ones ...

Brian

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On 7 Feb 2012, at 18:08, George Gallen <ggal...@wyanokegroup.com> wrote:

> Why back in our day, the bits traveled at 110 baud, and simplex too.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:57 PM
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File
> 
> why when i was writing interfaces we did it with rocks and sticks, AND we
> had to walk through the snow to do it.  barefooted
> 
> AND WE LOVED IT!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> actually i'm kinda surprised no one mentioned using TAB as a delimiter.
> since it's never in text fields, you always get the data across with no
> problems. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David A. Green
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:20 AM
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File
> 
> I have to say amen to Tony's comments.  Why try and reinvent the wheel when
> there is a utility already written?  Or throw out some kludgy solution when
> a native one can be found?
> 
> David A. Green
> (480) 813-1725
> DAG Consulting
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] Building an Excel File
> 
> Not responding to any particular quote here, just the CSV topic in general.
> 
> Respected colleagues, CSV is not Excel. If you have an end-user that asks
> for Excel and you give them a CSV you're just perpetuating the myth that
> Pick is a dinosaur. They will gladly spend tens of thousands of dollars to
> replace your application with something that creates real Excel (and PDF)
> despite the fact that such things can be attained at low cost or no cost
> right now. Trust me, I've seen it happen.
> 
> This dove-tails with the reasons why people get 20 people to support Oracle
> when they can have 3 working on Pick.  The reason is that the Oracle people
> say "yes", and give them pretty reports, when their Pick guys say "no", and
> give them plain text in columns and rows and call it "Excel".
> 
> Please don't let that happen to you.  Be sure you are properly responding to
> end-user requests. Just ask them what they do with the documents after you
> generate them. If they really just want raw data, OK. But if they go on to
> tell you how many days it takes to reformat the data, assemble the multiple
> CSVs into a single workbook, etc, then you have found a great deal of room
> for improvement. Yeah, I've been there too.
> 
> Off the soapbox, thanks.
> T
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