We are looking at options for larger files in UniData as there are some BIG 
data sets out there. The options that are being looked at include (and in no 
particular order):

1. 64 bit files  - over 2Gb
2. Distributed files (like UniVerse)
3. More dat/over/idx files - going from datnnn to datnnnn

Each has pros and cons, and if there are other options let's hear them!
If you have a need and a preference then please speak up. 

Regards

JayJay

On 25 Apr 2012, at 21:29, "Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod)      46K" 
<rodney.baakko...@cigna.com> wrote:

> 
>    I think at the time I wrote this, Unidata 6 I think, I could not even get 
> memresize to handle overflow that was larger than 2 gigabytes. So I thought 
> the solution by Unidata was to create an overflow file for every dat segment. 
> I have never specified the OVERFLOW option when using memresize. Plus, I 
> rarely have enough space in a file system to handle 2 copies of one of my big 
> file. One work around for the file system space issue is to symbolically link 
> the original file in another file system. But that is a lot of work when you 
> have a lot of dat files. 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of 
> dean.armbrus...@ferguson.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:16 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org; jonathan.lec...@blairswindows.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [U2] Huge Dynamic Unidata file
> 
> Were you using the OVERFLOW option with memresize?  If not, memresize
> should not be creating the extra over files.  If memresize did create
> the extra over files without the OVERFLOW option, then that would be a
> bug in memresize. 
> 
> Dean Armbruster
> System Analyst
> 757-989-2839
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baakkonen,
> Rodney A (Rod) 46K
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:29
> To: 'Jonathan Leckie'; 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] Huge Dynamic Unidata file
> 
> 
> I resize most of my Dynamic files this way. I don't like having a small
> overxxx segment for every datxxx segment that memresize creates.. By
> creating the new file my self, I don't have a lot of these small overxxx
> segments that are never used.
> 
> I also wrote a process to Select the old file and create a SAVELIST.
> Without going into to much detail, the process uses PHANTOM to spawn off
> a number of Unidata copies. So there are a number of simultaneous
> processes working to build the new file. Each PHANTOM Copy knows how
> many total phantoms are working on the file and what sequence IT is
> within the total number of PHANTOMS. Each Phantom handles part of the
> SAVELIST. Each PHANTOM does the iteration below until the list is
> exhausted:
> 
> 1. QSELECT SAVEDLISTS listname000. (process 2 would use 001, process 3
> would use 002 etc)
> 2. COPY FROM old.file TO new.file
> 3. Increment the list counter from 000 by the number of Phantoms and go
> back to step one to process a new segment of the savelist.
> 4. If a process cannot find the next savelist segment in SAVEDLISTS, it
> is done.
> 
> This process is almost as fast as memresize. You can control what file
> systems are used for space reasons and you don't get scads of overxxx
> segments in your FILE.NAME directory (one of my dynamic files has 39 dat
> segments and just a over001). 
> 
> So I don't use memresize for dynamic files anymore. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Leckie
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:36 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Huge Dynamic Unidata file
> 
> I have a very large  file that I don't have enough free space to
> memresize, however howabout I create  new dynamic (temporary) file and
> then copy all the records (in ECL) to the new  file and then (unix) copy
> the temporary file over the top of the  original.
> 
> Does that seem like  a sensible idea?
> 
> 
> Regards
> Jonathan Leckie
> 
> 
> 
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