We run 6 x 60 on multiple towers without issue. 

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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Tasos Alexiou <ta...@rfelements.com> wrote:
> 
> Darin,
> 
> I dont know anyone who has tried 12 but that would be cool. I think GPS is 
> for sure needed :) I do think 6x 60deg might be possible w/o gps with an ABC 
> ABC channel set up.
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2016 9:08 PM, "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> Adair,
> 
> That's exactly what it would look like on a pole lol! 
> 
> In some of your denser areas I think it would be cool to try doing 12 prism 
> sectors if they get GPS sync working. Lots of capacity that way 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> 
>> wrote:
>> You said that and all I could think of was....<image.png>
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> So the 30s would be a great replacement for some of our 90 degree sectors 
>>> as long as we're putting 3 of them in place per sector? Gain is similar or 
>>> better even at long distance like 8 miles or so?
>>> 
>>> Has anyone done a 12 horn 30 degree setup yet for full 360 coverage on a 
>>> tower? If the front to back and side lobes are great, this would seem to be 
>>> achievable. 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Tasos Alexiou <ta...@rfelements.com> wrote:
>>>> Lol... No worries. The 30s rock and our 50 or 60 have great performance. 
>>>> The 90s are great little sectors but range can be limited. I hope you 
>>>> report back your results when you try the 60 or 30.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2016 8:06 PM, "Chris Ruschmann" <ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote:
>>>>> Well shit, I guess if I just would have went on your site I would have 
>>>>> saw that J
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess I have the 60’s as well, not 65’s as you don’t make them, I 
>>>>> haven’t deployed any yet though, only the 90’s.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks though, I’ll give them a shot.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Tasos Alexiou
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:47 PM
>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a 18db 30deg version that is performing better than 20 or 21db 
>>>>> traditional sectors as Garth mentioned. You should give one of them a 
>>>>> try..
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tasos Alexiou
>>>>> Managing Partner
>>>>> RFelements North America LLC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype: tasosrfe
>>>>> eMail: ta...@rfelements.com
>>>>> Web: www.rfelements.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/rfelements
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tasosalexiou
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It depends on the noise floor, most cpe’s according to the interface sit 
>>>>> in the 90’s. At the sector it’s usually in the high 80’s to low 90’s.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> So when we set people up and the return signal is in low to mid 70’s we 
>>>>> tend to not want to install. So several times this has happened, we have 
>>>>> just swapped the sector back to the AC 65degree panels and get to where 
>>>>> we need to be in the mid 60’s. Which makes sense since your adding 10 dbi 
>>>>> back to the link.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> So the question is, can you make a high gain version of the horns? A 16 
>>>>> to 20 dbi model would solve most issues for us on the longer shots.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:26 PM
>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are the SNRs\modulations like for the longer out ones?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> 
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Chris Ruschmann" <ch...@scsalaska.net>
>>>>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:36:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have been using both the 65’s and the 90’s. Like I said, they work 
>>>>> really well in our less than a mile areas, better than any sector would 
>>>>> in fact.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> While I can connect devices over a mile, the signals on the receive side 
>>>>> of the sector don’t meet our minimum qualifications for a connection. I 
>>>>> think its a gain issue on the horn. 10 Dbi just isn’t enough for long 
>>>>> range PTMP at our return signal requirements.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Tasos Alexiou
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:50 AM
>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for that feedback. I have a few questions.  What horns are you 
>>>>> using and what CPE's are connected?  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Customers are able to connect some devices over 10miles.  For example 
>>>>> using Airgrids or PBE400's on 30deg Horns. We had someone with a 30deg 
>>>>> Horn and RocketM5 connect to a NSM5LOCO at almost 3 miles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tasos Alexiou
>>>>> Managing Partner
>>>>> RFelements North America LLC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype: tasosrfe
>>>>> eMail: ta...@rfelements.com
>>>>> Web: www.rfelements.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/rfelements
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tasosalexiou
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use the feed horns as well, they work great up close, but as you get
>>>>> farther out, more than a mile, they start to have issues I've found.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How far are you connecting you're your devices at?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of G. Nicholas
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:29 PM
>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>> 
>>>>> Evan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes you have the correct pairing,  we just converted a tower site from 4
>>>>> Prism's on the UB Titanium sectors to the RF Elements 30deg horns.
>>>>> Greatly reduced the noise floor by going to the 30deg which gave us higher
>>>>> SNR and more 8x rates.  doing an ABC channel config until UB actually gets
>>>>> the GPS sync on the Prisms working.   Total capacity on the tower now is
>>>>> over 2 GBps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Garth
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Evan Galvin
>>>>> Sent: 9/26/2016 7:42:35 PM
>>>>> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
>>>>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Hey guys, just wanted to confirm that the R5AC-PRISM-US has a metal
>>>>> > shielded housing on it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Do you think it would pair up good with this combo:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.aspb
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