It changes the Ubnt radio to do epmp TDD wireless.  The #1 feature of epmp.

It's also probably a bit mean to discuss this on the Ubnt list, just
noticed the tag...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Dec 9, 2016 5:39 AM, "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> wrote:

> Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
> makes it perform better?
>
> Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into
> any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless performance
> of the UBNT device, then why put it on?
>
> I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
> Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to call
> it the 'moderator' function at a debate.
>
>
> On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
> > "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> > waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
> >
> > The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Nothing on the AP side.
> >>
> >>
> >> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
> >> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
> >>  protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point
> >> of view.
> >>
> >> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> >> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
> >>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
> >>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>> Suite 1337
> >>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
> >>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
> >>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
> >>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>> Mike Hammett
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solut
> >>>>>>> ions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
> >>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> >>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
> >>>>>>> option.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>> guinea
> >>>>>>>> pigs :P
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up
> >>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> customers.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes
> >>>>>>>>> <st...@pcswin.com>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz
> >>>>>>>>>> channels and Airmax
> >>>>>>>>>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to
> >>>>>>>>>> start adding security to all clients.  (backhauls
> >>>>>>>>>> already had security)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and
> >>>>>>>>>> CPEs (5.6.9
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ALL)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP
> >>>>>>>>>> side an some
> >>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing
> >>>>>>>>>> traffic
> >>>>>>> till
> >>>>>>>>>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and
> >>>>>>>>>> all around goofiness of our network that we never had
> >>>>>>>>>> without security.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this
> >>>>>>>>>> decision.  Any thoughts or ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Steve Barnes
> >>>>>>>>>> Wireless Operations Manager
> >>>>>>>>>> New Lisbon Broadband
> >>>>>>>>>> NLBC.COM
> >>>>>>>>>> PCSWIN.COM
> >>>>>>>>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>>>>>>>> <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>>>>
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