It's not the same hardware.

On Fri, December 9, 2016 7:40 am, Mike Hammett wrote:
> It turns a UBNT CPE into an ePMP CPE.
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> Mike Hammett
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> Midwest Internet Exchange
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> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 4:39:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
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> Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
> makes it perform better?
>
> Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into
>  any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless
> performance of the UBNT device, then why put it on?
>
> I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
> Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to call
>  it the 'moderator' function at a debate.
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> On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
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>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>
>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
>> upgrade.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Nothing on the AP side.
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>>>
>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE. I can say
>>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna. I've heard better
>>> filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure
>>> from my point of view.
>>>
>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>>>  interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from
>>>>>>>>> all you
>>>>>>>> guinea
>>>>>>>>> pigs :P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Epmp elevate! AP swap done in an hour then go hook up
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> customers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes
>>>>>>>>>> <st...@pcswin.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz
>>>>>>>>>>>  channels and Airmax we had not applied Wireless
>>>>>>>>>>> Security. We decided to
>>>>>>>>>>> start adding security to all clients. (backhauls
>>>>>>>>>>> already had security)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and
>>>>>>>>>>> CPEs (5.6.9
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ALL)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP
>>>>>>>>>>> side an some
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> the CPE. Also have had several AP’s just stop passing
>>>>>>>>>>>  traffic
>>>>>>>> till
>>>>>>>>>>> they were rebooted. Funky communication with AC2 and
>>>>>>>>>>> all around goofiness of our network that we never had
>>>>>>>>>>>  without security.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this
>>>>>>>>>>> decision. Any thoughts or ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. ePMP is not an answer Josh. ☺
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>>>>>>>>>> New Lisbon Broadband
>>>>>>>>>>> NLBC.COM
>>>>>>>>>>> PCSWIN.COM
>>>>>>>>>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>>>>>>>>>>> <(765)%20584-2288>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> -RickG KyWiFi
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