wonder if beamforming is coming for 2.4 ?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Replace beam and ubnt ap


  With beam running epmp on epmp ap


  Licensed 27 per sm.


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  On Dec 9, 2016 8:31 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

    With that said, I'm assuming that the elevate! firmware buys you motorola 
proprietary protocol or am I missing something? 


    On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

      Wi-Fi and epmp tdd


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      On Dec 9, 2016 8:18 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

        I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?


        On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

          2.4 is Q1 2017


          XM and XW both work




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          On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:

            So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...

            Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??

            in 2.4GHz?

            Support for XM and XW hardware?

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            On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:

              "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I 
wouldn't waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts." 


              The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift 
upgrade.



              On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                Nothing on the AP side. 


                The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I 
can say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better 
filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my 
point of view.


                If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I 
wouldn't waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.




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                On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

                  Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! 
program is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE? 


                  On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                    Have you not deployed any epmp?


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                    On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

                      So, does it fix the problem?


                      On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                        $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix 
the problem




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                        On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett 
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:

                          That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck 
roll.




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                          From: "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
                          To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
                          Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
                          Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 


                          Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for 
this option.

                          On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
                          > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out 
from all you guinea
                          > pigs :P
                          >
                          >
                          > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
                          > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
                          > wrote:
                          >
                          >
                          >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go 
hook up other customers.
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> Josh Luthman
                          >> Office: 937-552-2340
                          >> Direct: 937-552-2343
                          >> 1100 Wayne St
                          >> Suite 1337
                          >> Troy, OH 45373
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" 
<rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> +1!
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes 
<st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 
10MHz channels and
                          >>> Airmax
                          >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided 
to start adding
                          >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had 
security)
                          >>>
                          >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs 
and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
                          >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the 
AP side an some one
                          >>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop 
passing traffic till
                          >>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 
and all around
                          >>> goofiness of our network that we never had 
without security.
                          >>>
                          >>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this 
decision.  Any
                          >>> thoughts or ideas?
                          >>>
                          >>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
                          >>>
                          >>>
                          >>> Steve Barnes
                          >>> Wireless Operations Manager
                          >>> New Lisbon Broadband
                          >>> NLBC.COM
                          >>> PCSWIN.COM
                          >>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
                          >>>
                          >>>
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