from experience - better chance of the radio not locking up from a fresh reboot
we've always rebooted before upgrading  (we just tell aircontrol to do that 
before upgrading)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Head 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0 issues


  Why?
  I did not.

  On 1/5/2017 6:01 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
  > Make sure you reboot before you downgrade.
  >
  > On Thu, January 5, 2017 4:22 pm, Steve Barnes wrote:
  >> Jerry are you finding going back to 5.6.9 can stabilize this issue.  We
  >> have Rocket M5(XM) that are doing the same thing.  One sector just had 6
  >> clients offline and rebooting the AP restored all the clients.
  >>
  >> We had a few clients that were having issues and after reverting back to
  >> 5.6.9 the radios died.  Don't want to do that on a 300ft tower AP when
  >> its 17 degrees outside.
  >>
  >> Steve Barnes
  >> Wireless Operations Manager
  >> New Lisbon Broadband
  >> NLBC.COM
  >> PCSWIN.COM
  >> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
  >>
  >>
  >> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
  >> On Behalf Of Jerry Head
  >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 3:45 PM
  >> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
  >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
  >>
  >>
  >> I would advise against putting 6.0 on XM APs. As they drop subs with that
  >> version. A reboot gets them back but...yuck.
  >>
  >>
  >> On 1/5/2017 10:39 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
  >> Just try going to 6.0 first on AP and STA and see if it improves. Also
  >> make sure you Airview scan that you're on the best channel.
  >>
  >>
  >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:17 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
  >> <par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >> will play with 5.6.9 later today - anyone else able to comment on this?
  >> back to the initial question - am i trying too hard with 10 meg packages
  >> on 2.4 rockets with these numbers? should the radios be able to do that? do
  >> i need to go post in ubnt forums? :)
  >>
  >> maybe i will.... lol
  >>
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: RickG<mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>
  >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
  >> Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:12 AM
  >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
  >>
  >>
  >> Yes and the time frame matches the 5.6.x FW suspicion. It comes & goes
  >> and so far I have not been able to pinpoint it.
  >>
  >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Ken Patrick
  >> <patr...@my9ja.com<mailto:patr...@my9ja.com>> wrote:
  >> Jay,
  >>
  >>
  >> We get these complaints from customers and I have always ignored it as
  >> long as everything looks fine from our end. But this has increased
  >> significantly since the Virus and 5.6.x firmware and I think we need to
  >> critically look at it and not dismiss it. There is no way a ton of
  >> customers can be hallucinating at the same time
  >>
  >> The complaints are usually in the form of its slow or  the internet goes
  >> off and on especially if you are on the DFS band.
  >>
  >> Is anyone else experiencing this kinds of complaints ??
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Regards
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:45 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
  >> <par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >> oh, if you're wondering, management downgraded him to our lowest package
  >> today and said "do not upgrade him even if he asks" we suspect he'll visit
  >> his parents more :) base package is 3 meg
  >>
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: CBB - Jay Fuller<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
  >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
  >> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:40 PM
  >> Subject: [Ubnt_users] 2.4 throughput. gotta love being a wisp
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> We've got an average of 14 users on our 2.4 rockets.  10 mhz channels.
  >> some are sectors, some are omnis.
  >>
  >> Currently one 2.4 rocket has 13 connections (one guy dropped for
  >> t-mobile??!!)   I guess that makes sense, no one else has t-mobile down
  >> here.... - so here are the current stats :
  >>
  >> airmax quality - 83% airmax capacity - 80%
  >>
  >> here is the stations list and their signals -
  >>
  >> [cid:image001.jpg@01D26770.0D24CF80]
  >>
  >>
  >> Access point is running 6.0 ; stations are 5.6.3
  >> That'll change soon - maybe end of January.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> I have a 2nd 2.4 rocket we are also monitoring - it also has 14 users on
  >> it
  >>
  >> airmax quality is 75% airmax capacity is 70%
  >>
  >> also running 6.0  stations are 5.6.3
  >>
  >> [cid:image002.jpg@01D26770.0D24CF80]\
  >>
  >>
  >> I am selling 10 meg packages off these access points.  In some cases
  >> folks are buying more than that. Sometimes I can get 22 meg linktests
  >> using the ubnt speed tests.
  >>
  >> I've noticed in the last week or two i've seen people disconnecting -
  >>
  >>
  >> "i'm only getting 2 meg, this is not acceptable"
  >>
  >>
  >> here's my favorite - a kid files a complaint against us with the bbb -
  >>
  >> "If you can avoid doing business with this company, I would STRONGLY
  >> suggest it. This company is very sneaky, and claims that the incredibly
  >> poor service and frequent downtime is simply out of their hand. They
  >> offer a "completely unlimited package" for xxxxx  in which they CLAIM "as
  >> much connectivity as your radio allows". After compiling data from around
  >> 100+ bandwidth connections tests over the course of 6 months, with the
  >> average speed being around 7Mbits (896 kilobytes). The pricing is not
  >> even close to reflecting the service, the cap on the xxxxxx  package is
  >> 10Mbits, so I am not even reaching the average on that. I can only say
  >> that the highest tier package is nothing short of a scam. Whenever I
  >> called to complain about this outrageous service, I was told that it was
  >> too bad, and that nothing will be done. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx is a conman,
  >> relying on shady business tactics to further his greed."
  >>
  >> btw - i can't recall any downtime within the last year and, well, i just
  >> love human beings.
  >>
  >> i am wondering - - am i asking too much out of these access points?
  >>
  >> usage graphed -
  >>
  >> access point 1 -
  >>
  >> [cid:image003.jpg@01D26770.0D24CF80]
  >>
  >>
  >> access point #2
  >>
  >> [cid:image004.jpg@01D26770.0D24CF80]
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> btw - i should add the kid who filed the complaint lives in his parents
  >> barn (yes, i said barn) and has his own connection separate from his
  >> parents.
  >>
  >> question - am i asking too much of these access points?
  >>
  >> yes - i'm waiting on the rocket 2ac prism - - and these are our two
  >> busiest 2.4 rockets - - but i am also getting complaints on other parts of
  >> our network.
  >>
  >> ok - thanks in advance.
  >>
  >>
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