Whats the rough cost for one of those SiAE links?

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 09:56, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote:
> 
> Yah, B11 is 50% (or less) as efficient as is possible. 
> 
> For real data throughput and spectral efficiency, you can't beat something 
> like SIAE AlfoPlus2 (4096) qam at 80MHZ) and can run XPIC so only using ONE 
> frequency pair to push well over a gig with sub-millisecond latency. Sure, 
> costs more, but YGWYPF. 
> 
> YMWDV, 
> JP 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:25:14 -0500, Adair Winter wrote 
> > And trashes the 11g spectrum. Put a real radio up 
> > 
> > On Apr 13, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tommy Adams" <tomm...@digitex.net> wrote: 
>> 
>> > 
>> > No experience with the AF11, but the B11 will give you every bit of 1 gig. 
>> > We put one up 4 months ago, no rain fade and it really moved the data.  
>> > 
>> > -------------------------------- 
>> > Tommy A. 
>> > Digitex.com 
>> > 
>> > 817.558.6230 V 
>> > 817.558.1204 F 
>> > 
>> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Tim-GM <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Will have techs test at tower 
>>> > Thanks for feedback 
>>> >   
>>> > We plan on moving or adding 11ghz for this link 24ghz would be backup. 
>>> > Just not sure if we do ubnt, mimosa, or cambium for the 11ghz 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:36 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > If you're running bandwidth tests from a MikroTik, I doubt that anything 
>>> > less than a CCR is going to be able to handle a 700Mbps TCP test. In my 
>>> > experience, if an AF24 is showing full capacity (770Mbps), it will do 
>>> > 700Mbps consistently. 
>>> > 
>>> > We have an inactive AF24 link (it was replaced with 11ghz because of rain 
>>> > fade issues, but we left the AF24 there for a spare), with a CCR1009 at 
>>> > one end and an RB1100AHx2 at the other end - running a receive test from 
>>> > the CCR, I consistently get 680-700Mbps, but the other direction it's 
>>> > very inconsistent but probably averages about 100Mbps (keep in mind these 
>>> > routers do have around 300Mbps of traffic going through the other link 
>>> > while this is running). 
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on 
>>> > behalf of Shawn C. Peppers [videodirectwispal...@gmail.com] 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:04 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> > 
>>> > Im not sure i get 700 mbps test across a few of mine either when running 
>>> > tcp.  I do however hit 600+ at peak times.  Like Adair stated, its likely 
>>> > either the routers just are not accurately handling the bandwidth test, 
>>> > you have errors on the ethernet link or some other variable. 
>>> > 
>>> > Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > 
>>> > Video Direct 
>>> > 
>>> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free 
>>> > 
>>> > http://www.video-direct.tv 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Tommy Adams <tomm...@digitex.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Your numbers are almost identical to one of our links.  Pulling a TCP 
>>> > bandwidth test from a CCR1009 plugged in on each side we get 700 megs.  
>>> > We use the CCR1009 to bond two backhauls together for failover when it 
>>> > rains.  Anyone telling you these things do not fail in the rain is crazy 
>>> > or lives in the dessert.  
>>> >   
>>> > If you have a Mikrotik router behind it, you can do a bandwidth test to 
>>> > btest.planetcoop.com user/pass: btest. This is s public testing server 
>>> > setup by a nice ISP in northern US. 
>>> >   
>>> > Tommy 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> >   
>>> > -------------------------------------------------- 
>>> > Tommy Adams 
>>> > Network Administrator 
>>> > Digitex.com 
>>> >   
>>> > 817.558.6230 V 
>>> > 817.558.1204 F 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Tim-GM 
>>> > <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
>>> > Reply-To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 9:43 AM 
>>> > To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> > 
>>> >   
>>> > UDP around 653meg 
>>> >   
>>> > But that has NO value. 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:36 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > Must be something else messing with it.  How are you bandwidth testing?  
>>> > Try a UDP test.  
>>> > 
>>> > Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > 
>>> > Video Direct 
>>> > 
>>> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free 
>>> > 
>>> > http://www.video-direct.tv 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Tim-GM <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > <image001.png> 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:16 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > What does the capacity show?  
>>> > 
>>> > Shawn C. Peppers 
>>> > 
>>> > Video Direct 
>>> > 
>>> > 866-680-8433 Toll Free 
>>> > 
>>> > http://www.video-direct.tv 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Tim-GM <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Just noticed airlink at 33db says 500 
>>> > At 38 db says 728 
>>> >   
>>> > The airfiber maximum power is 33db 
>>> >   
>>> > Can this power be increased on the airfiber? 
>>> >   
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Adair Winter 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:48 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > If the capacity graph says 760Mb, that's what he's got. and the only 
>>> > channel option is 100Mhz. 
>>> > 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Adam Greene <maill...@webjogger.net> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > How much spectrum (channel width) did you allocate to the link? 
>>> >   
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>> > On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:26 AM 
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 24Ghz link Airfiber 
>>> >   
>>> > Same here, with the AF24 line, always see full throughput.  Is it 
>>> > possible the routers on the ends can't handle the throughput?  Especially 
>>> > if they are generating the traffic for the Bandwidth test. 
>>> > 
>>> > On 4/13/2017 7:22 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > we move 700+Mb easily over our air fibers. how are you testing? 
>>> > 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Tim-GM 
>>> > <t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Installed our first AirFiber link 3.62 miles 
>>> >   
>>> > DB numbers 65-66 match the airlink model 
>>> > We have them set at full duplex 
>>> > All indications are a 764-759 meg link 
>>> >   
>>> > Yet our TCP-IP throughput is 300-330meg 
>>> >   
>>> > Any thoughts on why? 
>>> >   
>>> > The signal have solid colors for each chain on both sides 
>>> >   
>>> > What are your experiences 
>>> >   
>>> > 
>>> >  
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