And it looks like you either have antenna gain set wrong or need to work on
the alignment, Matt.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:01 PM Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> wrote:

> Yeah, but you have a much stronger link - you're at -48 with 17dbm Tx
> Power.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Matt Hoppes [mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:26 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Darin Steffl
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
>
> I'm not sure what has been discussed here, but we have 10x going on this
> link (see picture)
>
> On 3/26/18 11:48 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> > Alex,
> >
> > Frequency coordinators are supposed to find you spectrum but at the end
> > of the day, it's up to your company to engineer/design the link to meet
> > your required signal and bandwidth needs. The manual for the AF11fx
> > clearly spells out the required signal levels and power levels needed to
> > achieve 6x, 8x, 10x modulation schemes. 18db is MAX power that can be
> > used to achieve 10x for example and then whatever the required signal
> > level is listed but I don't have it memorized.
> >
> > Sorry to put you on the spot and I don't mean any disrespect but you
> > guys kind of messed up. Don't rely on frequency coordinators to design
> > your links. Only use them to find you spectrum.
> >
> > A 17 mile link in 11ghz should definitely have minimum 3 foot antennas
> > on each end but I would plan on using 4 foot antennas to be safe if the
> > link is important to you and you want max bandwidth.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:38 AM, alex phillips <highspeedl...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Yes, this is what I Am concluding as well.  I have spoken with my
> >     freq coordinator about making changes to their software that
> >     estimates these links to account for this.
> >
> >     /*Alex Phillips*/
> >     CEO and General Manager
> >     RBNS.net
> >     HighSpeedLink.net
> >     *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
> >     Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference
> >     September 6-8th 2018
> >     #AMP18
> >     @PriorityConf Twitter
> >
> >     On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net
> >     <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
> >
> >         Yes, but the bigger problem here, if I'm reading Alex's
> >         screenshot correctly, is that this is a 17 mile link using 2'
> >         dishes, and there's a very good chance that there simply isn't
> >         enough signal for 10X to work. According to airlink, the signal
> >         should be right on the edge of 10X territory at that distance,
> >         which those antennas, but in the real world there's a good
> >         chance it isn't going to work... and there's certainly no fade
> >         margin to speak of at 10X.
> >
> >
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> >         <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> >         [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> >         <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of David Jones
> >         [d...@nglconnection.com <mailto:d...@nglconnection.com>]
> >         *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 5:42 AM
> >
> >         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> >         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
> >
> >         I can confirm with Adair
> >
> >         in order to get 10x you need TX set at 18 and no auto power back
> >         off. However you can use the MIMO and Short CP
> >
> >
> >         On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Mathew Howard
> >         <mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
> >
> >             I haven't ever been able to get the auto power back off to
> >             work properly... the first thing I'd try would be to turn
> >             that off and just set the max power to 18dbm... but the
> >             problem is, that when you do that, you're going to probably
> >             lose too much signal to maintain a 10x link (judging from
> >             the dashboard screenshot). If you go to the latest beta
> >             firmware, you'll probably be able to get 9x working, but I
> >             suspect the link just isn't going to be able to do 10x.
> >
> >
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >             *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> >             <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> >             [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> >             <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of alex
> >             phillips [highspeedl...@gmail.com
> >             <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>]
> >             *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2018 9:33 AM
> >             *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> >             *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
> >
> >             Like this?
> >
> >             https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png
> >             <https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png>
> >
> >
> >             That's how we've had it set, and we're still only seeing 8x.
> >
> >             https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png
> >             <https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png>
> >
> >
> >             /*Alex Phillips*/
> >             CEO and General Manager
> >             RBNS.net
> >             HighSpeedLink.net
> >             *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
> >             Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference
> >             September 6-8th 2018
> >             #AMP18
> >             @PriorityConf Twitter
> >
> >             On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Adair Winter
> >             <ada...@amarillowireless.net
> >             <mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote:
> >
> >                 What is your conducted power set to?
> >
> >                 On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 9:29 AM alex phillips
> >                 <highspeedl...@gmail.com
> >                 <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >                     I have it set like the lic says but it wont hit
> >                     10x.  Ubnt support suggested reducing power and that
> >                     did not help.
> >
> >                     /*Alex Phillips*/
> >                     CEO and General Manager
> >                     RBNS.net
> >                     HighSpeedLink.net
> >                     *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
> >                     Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority
> >                     Conference
> >                     September 6-8th 2018
> >                     #AMP18
> >                     @PriorityConf Twitter
> >
> >                     On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Seth Mattinen
> >                     <se...@rollernet.us <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>>
> wrote:
> >
> >                         On 3/23/18 7:03 AM, alex phillips wrote:
> >                         > Can those who use AF11 and are able to
> establish a link a 10x reliably
> >                         > please share your link information?
> >                         >
> >                         > Distance,  Dish and power settings.
> >
> >
> >                         Match your license. Don't randomly increase
> >                         power, 11GHz travels a long
> >                         way and you can easily interfere with another
> >                         licensee.
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