Matt, leave your gain at 35 dB and set cable loss to 1db. After that, aim to what the ideal signal shown in the gui. You're at least 6db away from a perfect link still so I'd look into that if I were you. We have links at 6 to 7 miles with better signal than you have at 2.6 miles. Using same dishes and 18db power.
Aka please aim better and verify perfect Los. On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 1:46 PM Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: > It's actually not excessive. > If you read the manual it says the duplexer is = to 1db loss and you're > going to have at least that in the jumpers as well. > I however always set the cable loss to zero and do the math for my max > EIRP or 18dbm. It's just easier when looking at it to know that there isn't > 2 being subtracted somewhere. > Even with the losses, we usually are within 1-2db of target and sometimes > beat it. > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net> > wrote: > >> Does UBNT say to use 2db cable loss? that seems a little excessive to >> me... >> >> But yeah, I'd say alignment is either a bit off or you have some >> obstructions... you should have better signal than that, at that distance. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on >> behalf of Matt Hoppes [mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net] >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:55 PM >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Adair Winter >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x >> >> Why is that? They are 35dB antennas. >> >> 17 + 35 - 2 = 50, which is right where we are. >> >> On 3/26/18 1:17 PM, Adair Winter wrote: >> > And it looks like you either have antenna gain set wrong or need to work >> > on the alignment, Matt. >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:01 PM Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net >> > <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote: >> > >> > Yeah, but you have a much stronger link - you're at -48 with 17dbm >> > Tx Power. >> > >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of Matt Hoppes >> > [mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>] >> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:26 AM >> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Darin Steffl >> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x >> > >> > I'm not sure what has been discussed here, but we have 10x going on >> this >> > link (see picture) >> > >> > On 3/26/18 11:48 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: >> > > Alex, >> > > >> > > Frequency coordinators are supposed to find you spectrum but at >> > the end >> > > of the day, it's up to your company to engineer/design the link >> > to meet >> > > your required signal and bandwidth needs. The manual for the >> AF11fx >> > > clearly spells out the required signal levels and power levels >> > needed to >> > > achieve 6x, 8x, 10x modulation schemes. 18db is MAX power that >> can be >> > > used to achieve 10x for example and then whatever the required >> signal >> > > level is listed but I don't have it memorized. >> > > >> > > Sorry to put you on the spot and I don't mean any disrespect but >> you >> > > guys kind of messed up. Don't rely on frequency coordinators to >> > design >> > > your links. Only use them to find you spectrum. >> > > >> > > A 17 mile link in 11ghz should definitely have minimum 3 foot >> > antennas >> > > on each end but I would plan on using 4 foot antennas to be safe >> > if the >> > > link is important to you and you want max bandwidth. >> > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:38 AM, alex phillips >> > <highspeedl...@gmail.com <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com> >> > > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > Yes, this is what I Am concluding as well. I have spoken >> with my >> > > freq coordinator about making changes to their software that >> > > estimates these links to account for this. >> > > >> > > /*Alex Phillips*/ >> > > CEO and General Manager >> > > RBNS.net >> > > HighSpeedLink.net >> > > *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>* >> > > Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference >> > > September 6-8th 2018 >> > > #AMP18 >> > > @PriorityConf Twitter >> > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Mathew Howard >> > <mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net> >> > > <mailto:mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>>> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > Yes, but the bigger problem here, if I'm reading Alex's >> > > screenshot correctly, is that this is a 17 mile link >> using 2' >> > > dishes, and there's a very good chance that there simply >> > isn't >> > > enough signal for 10X to work. According to airlink, the >> > signal >> > > should be right on the edge of 10X territory at that >> > distance, >> > > which those antennas, but in the real world there's a >> good >> > > chance it isn't going to work... and there's certainly no >> > fade >> > > margin to speak of at 10X. >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> >> > > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> >> > > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> >> > > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>] on behalf of David Jones >> > > [d...@nglconnection.com <mailto:d...@nglconnection.com> >> > <mailto:d...@nglconnection.com <mailto:d...@nglconnection.com>>] >> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 5:42 AM >> > > >> > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x >> > > >> > > I can confirm with Adair >> > > >> > > in order to get 10x you need TX set at 18 and no auto >> > power back >> > > off. However you can use the MIMO and Short CP >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Mathew Howard >> > > <mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net> >> > <mailto:mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > I haven't ever been able to get the auto power back >> > off to >> > > work properly... the first thing I'd try would be to >> turn >> > > that off and just set the max power to 18dbm... but >> the >> > > problem is, that when you do that, you're going to >> > probably >> > > lose too much signal to maintain a 10x link (judging >> from >> > > the dashboard screenshot). If you go to the latest >> beta >> > > firmware, you'll probably be able to get 9x working, >> > but I >> > > suspect the link just isn't going to be able to do >> 10x. >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> >> > > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>> >> > > [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> >> > > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> > <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>>] on behalf of alex >> > > phillips [highspeedl...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com> >> > > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>>] >> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2018 9:33 AM >> > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x >> > > >> > > Like this? >> > > >> > > https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png >> > > <https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png> >> > > >> > > >> > > That's how we've had it set, and we're still only >> > seeing 8x. >> > > >> > > https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png >> > > <https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png> >> > > >> > > >> > > /*Alex Phillips*/ >> > > CEO and General Manager >> > > RBNS.net >> > > HighSpeedLink.net >> > > *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>* >> > > Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority >> Conference >> > > September 6-8th 2018 >> > > #AMP18 >> > > @PriorityConf Twitter >> > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Adair Winter >> > > <ada...@amarillowireless.net >> > <mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net> >> > > <mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net >> > <mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > What is your conducted power set to? >> > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 9:29 AM alex phillips >> > > <highspeedl...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com> >> > > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > I have it set like the lic says but it wont >> hit >> > > 10x. Ubnt support suggested reducing power >> > and that >> > > did not help. >> > > >> > > /*Alex Phillips*/ >> > > CEO and General Manager >> > > RBNS.net >> > > HighSpeedLink.net >> > > *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>* >> > > Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American >> Priority >> > > Conference >> > > September 6-8th 2018 >> > > #AMP18 >> > > @PriorityConf Twitter >> > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Seth >> Mattinen >> > > <se...@rollernet.us >> > <mailto:se...@rollernet.us> <mailto:se...@rollernet.us >> > <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > On 3/23/18 7:03 AM, alex phillips wrote: >> > > > Can those who use AF11 and are able to >> > establish a link a 10x reliably >> > > > please share your link information? >> > > > >> > > > Distance, Dish and power settings. >> > > >> > > >> > > Match your license. Don't randomly >> increase >> > > power, 11GHz travels a long >> > > way and you can easily interfere with >> another >> > > licensee. >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org>> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > >> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org>> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > >> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org>> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > < >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org>> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > David Jones >> > > NGL Connection >> > > 307-288-5491 ext 702 <tel:(307)%20288-5491> >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org>> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org>> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Darin Steffl >> > > Minnesota WiFi >> > > www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com> <http://www.mnwifi.com/> >> > > 507-634-WiFi >> > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >
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