..on Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 06:19:28PM +0100, Damian Vila wrote: > Troy James Sobotka escribió: > > The point of choosing an audience is not exactly as murky as you > > wish to paint it. It is perhaps one of the most valuable discussions > > this list has _ever_ seen. > > > > Unfortunately, in the end, the default installations presence > > and audience are outside of the scope of our realm and lays > > in the hands of the higher ups. > > > > Sincerely, > > TJS > I agree with Troy. > The ultimate question could be, are you ready to design for Ubuntu's > audience?. That means listening, and listening to everybody. Is Ubuntu's > artwork direction in the hands and will of the audience? > If you really want some feedback from Ubuntu users, then the list is not > the place to be... > And Ubuntu won't be brown, that's for sure.
then so be it. i strongly believe Ubuntu artwork development needs to follow the same consensual process as any other aspect of the project's development: users needs to be able to report what they consider 'bugs' in the art and design aspects and feel they are being heard. we respond to those bugs by coming up with working solution. ideally they get on board and help out. if the bulk of users simply don't like brown - which is the fairly clearly the case - then you have a choice to either listen to the users and invite them to submit alternative designs or choose the same semi-closed myopic design-agenda the art currently has. i teach with Ubuntu in a free-software art and design context in universities and art centres: very rarely is the Human theme actually retained on computers students have dedicated to them for workshops/courses longer than 3 days. some love it, most simply don't. that's my culturally relative experience. Ken is approaching all this with real clarity i think: not too big to ignore the fact that if one wildly impossible mockup on a forum by a non-list-member receives 19 pages of praise, it deserves consideration and consequent feasible response. this approach has worked brilliantly for other aspects of the Ubuntu project and there's no reason it can't work as well here. comparing Apple's design agenda to that of Ubuntu is absurd: this is a volunteer project remember, made by people for people. two fish with vastly different budgets and histories. cheers, -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
