Salane Ashcraft wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> >>> Its just I hear stuff from people who have been here long, but what >>> have they done? Ken himself has said the art team needs to prove >>> itself to be trusted with anything substantial. >>> >> Thats not really the point of the "You haven't been here long." comment. >> It's that there's a whole history of issues that have plagued the art >> team. All usually centering around the lack of real direction and being >> subject to Mark's misunderstanding of art and design. >> >> There are many talented people pn this list that can more than make >> Ubuntu rock. They are mostly just waiting to see solid change from Mark >> and Canonical. Actually, most AFAIK aren't waiting. They are done and >> over it. So what we're kinda left with now are people like you that have >> enthusiasm but no real experience. Or, we have people with no artistic >> ability and w really shouldn't be afraid to tell them that. >> >> It's a much more complex issue than you know. >> >> So I still give a big +1 for the "sub-team" idea. I hope you work on >> your own vision of a theme, and not default. Best to hope for is that >> pieces get picked for default. >> >> -Cory >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-art mailing list >> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >> > > People with no experience that are helping are just as good as people > with it that are not. >
So, inexperienced help=no help? > Also what doesnt help is no support from those in charge. > Which is, and has always been the issue. Something you would know more about *if you had been here longer*. > Also- I know the issue. I have had many conversations with several > people who have been involved or are still involved. No one else is > trying for anything really. > Same old same old. Talk without action. :) This is because of multiple reasons. Something experience in this community would have showed you. ;) Salane. Organize *your own* effort. You will never herd the cats on this list. :) It will always be the same people that do anything. The 20-80 rule. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle) Don't care about default. Let Ken worry about that. He and Mark can come along and cherry-pick what they like if they want. * Pick you own GTK theme. * Pick you own GDM. * Pick you own fonts. * Pick you own UI layout. * Pick you own icons. * Pick you own Usplash. -Cory -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
