On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Vishnoo <v...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > Hi, > Thorsten's recent mail "Goodbye", has generated some response and there > has been reference to issues and seeking advice from Jono/Ivanka. > > Highlighting the relevant replies: > > On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:40 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Our combined inability or unwillingness to deal with repeated > > misrepresentations and incredible ignorance from one member pisses me > > off to no end and spoils the last bit of fun. > > On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 13:41 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:> > > I understand, I've reduced my participation because of the same member. > > This team isn't worth being involved with any more because it's a team > > that only exists to serve one member; a member who will distort, lie and > > outright misrepresent in order to bully the consensus so things are done > > his way. > > To me, it is pretty clear what Martin and Thorsten refer to. > > On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 13:43 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Сергей <shnat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On the other hand, the issues are pointed out, so now we can work on > solving them. After reading Martin's message I think we shall ask Ivanka or > even Jono Bacon for advice. We just can't let the team fall apart! > > > > Yes, it's definitely time to do something. I'm +1 on seeking advice from > Ivanka and Jono. > > > > On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:08 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: > > Thorwil, > > I too have been dialing back my participation on the list for the very > same reasons you state. > > > @Сергей, Leandro Gómez, Saleel Velankar: > can you clearly state what issue has been troubling you? > > Indecision, lack of identity as a team/community, no goals/objectives whatsover, no discussion on the list on important issues (something that may suggest that this is a rather autocratic community), no clear rules for contributing (plus rules that changes all the time).
In the end, the main problem is that there's a total absence of leadership. > We first need to identify the issue to fix the situation. > We need to state clearly what our problem is, before we seek advice from > Jono/Ivanka. > > -- > Cheers, > Vish > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >
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