I agree with the fact that some proprietary formats are more popular. Is it because they are good? It is because users were forced to use them. Being most of them a specific OS users, they did not have the freedom to choose but to adapt whatever good things they were told about. I agree we don't have money to put fancy ads on the websites, billboards or on tv to promote non-proprietary formats. If we keep supporting those evils, then users will never feel the urge to know why they are evil and why we don't support them. You may find followings interesting regarding this issue: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html http://lwn.net/2001/0301/a/rms-ov-license.php3 We are not to compete with any one. We wanted our freedom- FOSS is all about freedom. Ubuntu is part of the process. Let it be the way it is. ----- tanjir visit http://www.tanjir.net
--- On Mon, 4/27/09, dark lord <darklord2...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: dark lord <darklord2...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BD] SUPER ubuntu > To: "Ubuntu Bangladesh" <ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com> > Received: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:17 PM > u just cant stop people using thos > prop codec or format thats reality > its everywhere but u can promote ogg and why its good . if > that good > enough to compit with thos prop format. in this case see > lame mp3, > xvid or x264 they are being popular for audio video and dvd > ripping > > On 4/27/09, tanjir <orko_...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > Is it our responsibility to create positive impression > about others > > proprietary or copyrighted materials which has legal > and moral conflict with > > us? We FOSS people from beginning are against > proprietary file formats. We > > need to convince people why mp3 is evil but ogg is > not. We should not > > promote people to use mp3 or other proprietary > formats. > > We have had this argument a lot of times before, Linux > IS NOT to promote > > doors or windows. I know there are a lot of popular > softwares which run only > > on Windows. It is more appropriate to ask the software > makers to make them > > available for Linux instead of asking Linux developers > to hack the software > > to run on it. Besides, most of the proprietary > softwares prohibits any kind > > of modification, or reverse engineering clearly in > their terms and > > condition. Just because we are doing in some cases > (mosly for personal > > reason and then sharing that knowledge) and nothing is > happening does not > > make these legal in the eye of justice. > > The games which run on windows only, one will need > FOSS app Wine to run on > > it and that is NO GOOD REASON why Wine should be > included in the main > > distro. If needed, the user should do it separately > and instead of having > > negative impression about us, they should have the > negative impression about > > those who took their freedom away. We are not robin > hood or pirates of > > hi-tech industry. > > Remember, popular is not equal to good. > > ----- > > tanjir > > visit http://www.tanjir.net > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/27/09, dark lord <darklord2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> From: dark lord <darklord2...@gmail.com> > >> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BD] SUPER ubuntu > >> To: "Ubuntu Bangladesh" <ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com> > >> Received: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:02 AM > >> যখন নতুন > >> ইউজার ইনস্টল দিয়ে > >> দেখবে ভিডিও এমপি৩ > >> চালাতে পারবেনা > গেম > >> খেলতে > >> পারবেনা তখন তাদের > >> উবুন্টু বা > লিনাক্স > >> সম্পর্কে নেগেটিভ > >> ধারনা স্ ষ্টি > >> হবেনা ? > >> > >> On 4/27/09, নাসির খান <nasir8...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > এধরনের আরও অনেক > >> উবুন্টু খুজলে > পাওয়া > >> যাবে। কিন্তু মূল > >> উবুন্টু দেয়াই ভালো > । ঐ > >> > উবুন্টু দেয়া হলে > >> একেবারেই নতুন > উবুন্টু > >> ব্যবহারকারীরা ভুল > >> বুঝতে পারে। > অন্ধকে > >> > দুধ চেনানোর মত > হয়ে > >> গেলে সমস্যা। > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Nasir Khan Saikat > >> > [নাসির খান সৈকত] > >> > www.nasirkhan.co.cc > >> > nasir8891.wordpress.com > >> > -- > >> > Ubuntu Bangladesh mailing list > >> > ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com > >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> DARKLORD (:= > >> -- > >> Ubuntu Bangladesh mailing list > >> ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd > >> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the > web, and bookmark your > > favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > > > > -- > > Ubuntu Bangladesh mailing list > > ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd > > > > > -- > DARKLORD (:= > -- > Ubuntu Bangladesh mailing list > ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- Ubuntu Bangladesh mailing list ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd
