On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:13 AM, martijn cielen <mcie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho > prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never > to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't > have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg. > just make sure that ubuntu-be stays financial healthy ... although an usb stick doesn't loose much of it's value it's an attack on your liquidity > On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let > Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we > distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge > investments. Just an idea. > Ubuntu has allready a (negative) answer for that in their faq: * * *Q. I would like to be a reseller of Ubuntu merchandise.* A. The Canonical store is built to cope with worldwide shipping requirements, therefore *we are not seeking local resellers in markets at this point*. We would be very happy if you were to point your customers to the Canonical store if they are looking for Ubuntu merchandise. *We cannot supply you with bulk items at a discount – unfortunately there are no exceptions to this.* *Q. How do I become an official Ubuntu CD Distributor?* A. Our CD Distributor programme is open to registered businesses that have the facilities in place to sell official Ubuntu CDs from their website to end users. If you feel that you meet these criteria and would like to become an authorised distributor of Ubuntu CDs, please fill out this application form <https://forms.canonical.com/cddistributor>. > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman <ste...@leeman.be> wrote: > > I wouldn't offer them for free imho? > > unless you can find such a sponsor? > > Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-) > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <mcie...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking > >> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <jbongae...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Some more advantages: > >> It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest > >> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity > becomes > >> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version. > >> > >> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be > >> quicker too. > >> > >> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike > the > >> CD. We would have to charge money. > >> > >> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead > >> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help. > >> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer > the > >> usage of my bvba. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Jan. > >> > >> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker <wouterv...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Steven > >>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I > >>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW. > >>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the > idea > >>> on: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011 > >>> I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting > >>> (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well. > >>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I > >>> can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described): > >>> - More durable than a CD > >>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it) > >>> - Can be updated > >>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you > like) > >>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising > >>> for us. (Free Publicity) > >>> - Also works for Netbook owners > >>> - Really awesome goodie. > >>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu > (once > >>> we finally create it..) > >>> grts > >>> > >>> Wouter > >>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below. > >>> ________________________________ > >>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me > if > >>> I could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France. > >>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a > 1GB > >>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who > >>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... > Gained > >>> another Ubuntero. > >>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks... > >>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem... > >>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick... > >>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874 > >>> 4gbyte usb stick > >>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport > >>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me > >>> following prices: > >>> model "Usb Incentive" > >>> : > http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html > >>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them > >>> Price/piece: €7,66 > >>> Logo Print: €0,10 > >>> Transport (China): €20,- > >>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW) > >>> 1 GB 2.0 -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for > >>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?) > >>> Price/piece €5,26 > >>> Logo Print: €0,10 > >>> Transport (China): €20,- > >>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW) > >>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB > >>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing > of the > >>> logo in 2 colors. > >>> Printing costs per color are €0,05. > >>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal > >>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models? > >>> > >>> > http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html > ... > >>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your > >>> usb-ports can't handle "wide" carts... > >>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick. > >>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say? > >>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them > with > >>> a small profit... > >>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...; > >>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb > ports > >>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we > aren't > >>> talking about USB hubs) > >>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except > >>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a > "clock"?) > >>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with > something > >>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick. > >>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion? > >>> -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify > >>> settings or unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > >>> -- > >>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com > >>> > >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Microsoft programs are like Englishmen. 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