Hi all On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:19, Theo Schmidt<[email protected]> wrote: > Theo Schmidt schrieb: > ... >> My own experience with Swiss Remix Build 11 is actually that it [KDE] >> doesn't work for >> an ethernet LAN either, if you have to assign an IP manually. It also seems >> to >> lack a field for entering the netmask. I'll try out a straight Kubuntu >> tomorrow >> in comparison. > > I tried out the Kubuntu 9.04 DVD from the present issue of Easy Linux. It > seems > slightly cleaner, e.g. one can now see the label of the field "netmask > prefix", > in Swiss Remix it just says "prefix". However if you enter the usual > 255.255.255.0, it just keeps the "0" next time you look at it; maybe that's > the > problem. Later when clicking on the connection, the new connection is almost > completely hidden by the VPN-window.
BTW, you can hide the VPN-network part in the widget AFAIK > And it still doesn't work. I'm astonished > how such an important tool can be released in such a state. Well, talk to the Kubuntu packagers? There are not that many so with a load of work which would easily need 20 people full time, laying on the shoulders of less than 10, don't expect miracles. Also keep in mind that KDE 4.2 is the first version of KDE4 aimed at the general public, and it's far from the polished state that KDE 3.5.10 which had 5 years of development to reach that point... Remember KDE4 is a *complete* rewrite! What we should consider is integrating the KDE 4.2.4 bugfixes available here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4, the default KDE 4.2.2 is not exactly that polished, but this is not a problem of KDE, but of the fixed release cycles of Ubuntu, they are not in sync with most of the desktop releases, unfortunately. And it's absolutely impossible for a Desktop Experience as large as KDE to sync to what distributions make, it should be the other way round, definitely. OpenSuSE can do that and does it well, so does Mandriva and Fedora to some extend. Another thing to consider is that most of the people use a dynamic address provided by their ISP, so using a dedicated IP address is a minority (don't forget that the target group is Mr. and Mrs. Everybody who usually don't run a dedicated server or even have a fix IP address). For the minority in this case I would expect them to be tech savvy enough to be able to use the workaround, which is either replacing network-manager-kde by network-manager or wicd for wireless connections, or start their network connection without a GUI interface, which is really not *that* hard. > What do you think: should we in future only do Swiss Remixes of LTS versions? Considering the amount of work to make a Swiss Remix I very much suggest we do this only every two years, so LTS is a perfect release. The next one will be 10.04, so we really would have time to prepare the release and find sponsors.This would also be more interesting for businesses who will hardly use a non LTS release on their machines. Another option would be to wait for KDE 4.3 to be released and packages available in the Kubuntu repositories. Release date is July 28, so why not wait another few days? We are months behind the 9.04 release anyway, so that would not hurt at all. I strongly support this option. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
