Myriam Schweingruber schrieb: ... > Calling the kicker menu being dreadful is very subjective.
Of course, although I suspect that it wouldn't get high marks with more or less objective usability criteria. ... > Well, you might have missed the paradigm change in KDE4 then (which > happened almost 3 years ago): Konqueror is *not* intended to be used > as a file manager anymore, Again, this was for me a (subjectively) dreadful decision, enough to put me off KDE unless they keep developing Konqueror. BTW, some distributions still use Konqueror as file manager and Firefox as browser! > the decision was to make it a lean and fast > browser, not a "Eierlegende Wollmichsau". Yes, it is still my favorite browser, more useful than Firefox except for those sites it can't show. But I think the unique combination of browser and file manager is so useful that it was a great mistake for the KDE community to degrade the best KDE program. (even though you might prefer EMACS :-) ) ... >> I realise this is OT here, but I need to gripe! Otherwise KDE4.2 has lots of >> terrific features. I just wish they'd merged with Gnome beforehand, which >> seems >> to want to do a major rebuild as well... > > What? Theo, either I misunderstand what you are saying here or you > have not understood the basics of software development frameworks: > merging KDE with Gnome is impossible, having two Desktop Environments > is in the nature of the two: KDE uses Qt, Gnome sticks with GTK+. You're right of course, but look at it from the user point of view: a while ago there was mainly a choice between KDE and Gnome as well as a few very lean, very basic desktop environments. Now we have KDE 3.5 (still my choice for productive work), a very well developed Gnome, XFCE as a slightly leaner version, and many other leaner ones coming along nicely. With KDE 4 we have a super new thing surpassing Windows Vista and perhaps MacOS for effects. And all the add-ons like Compiz, Cairo-dock, etc. And now Gnome is threatening to do the same as KDE, a major new rebuild! While this is all pro-choice and pro-freedom, I think it is getting too intimidating and may put people off Linux. Therefore it *would* have been nice for Gnome and KDE to get together, so that we have only one and not two "advanced Desktops". > Everybody can use KDE applications in Gnome and Gnome applications in > KDE, so there is no big problem there, besides the look not being very > harmonized. Yes, that is a great thing and the basis of Swiss Remix. The unharmonized look has a bit to do not just with the toolkits, but that Ubuntu *wants* a different design for each "family", whereas others try to make them look the same. > [rant] > Criticizing Free Software to be this or that and not how *you* would > like it to be exactly, while one really has enough choices, is > something that makes me angry, especially when it comes from people > who have the knowledge to take part in the development cycle and/or > influence design decisions. I don't think I have to remind you that if > you don't like it, make it better, make something yourself or pay a > developer to do so... This is of course exactly what I'm doing to the best of my abilities. I like *ubuntu a lot, but don't think much of the standard install-CDs. Hence the Remix. However developing KDE applications is quite outside my ability, so all I can do criticise on lists like this and hope to influence some developers. Cheers, Theo -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
