On gio, 2009-06-25 at 01:03 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Oops - sorry! Vincenzo (Ciancia) would you like to follow up to the > ubuntu-desktop list? > > Vincenzo Ciaglia wrote: > > Hi mark. Here is vincenzo CIAGLIA, not Ciancia. > > > > Have a nice day, > > vincenzo > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Da: Mark Shuttleworth <m...@ubuntu.com> > > Inviato: martedì 23 giugno 2009 18.14 > > A: ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com; Vincenzo Ciaglia > > <vince...@ciaglia.net> > > Oggetto: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much > > discussed guidelines] > > > > > > FYI, comments on the Ayatana list about Empathy. Vincenzo, these are > > good feedback, best put in the hands of the desktop team who are > > integrating Empathy. > > > > Mark >
With the due delay and the due "sorry for that", thank you for considering the comments I made, and here is a summary: basically, apart from many crashers and missing features, of which I think the most important would be OTR, which is widely diffused also for windows and osx chat programs, there are two important problems in empathy, regarding usability and consistency with the rest of the desktop: 1) New messages cause empathy th flash the notification area. _This is forbidden_, I do not know if it's written black-on-white somewhere but we all know that we shouldn't flash the notification area, should the world be falling. Update notifier can not do that. Why should empathy do that? This must be fixed. 2) It does _not open a popup_ on new messages. When the infamous update-notifier popup was decided, it was argued that pidgin already did that. I am a pop-up hater and the IM client is the only exception. In fact, for IM a pop-up may be desired. This is because if I start the IM client chances are I *want* to be disturbed and if a contact calls me I *want* to interact immediately. So ehm, I know it should not come from me but can we have the popup back? I would prefer it to be minimised by default so that stupid jokes from friends will not pop-up in front of my boss. Of course the two current behaviours should be left as an opt-in for those who love it. There is also a problem: empathy does not handle IRC authentication correctly. Pidgin has a plugin for that but why not just making authentication work? Basically, it should hide from the sight of the user the positive response from the server instead of annoying the user with a message. Thank you for reading Vincenzo -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
