>
> Your description roughly matches the way that Ubuntu is already structured.
Yes, it matches the way Ubuntu is structured. But - as you know - Ubuntu is
GNU/Linux
today. The first new proposal of me was to get other free operating systems
under Ubuntu's
project.
> That is, I don't see any work to be done on the core OS in order to enable
> the development of the derivatives you describe.
You are very right. For the core Ubuntu as it is today you don't have any work
to be done.
The only work to be done if Ubuntu Metadistribution is going to be reality is
to include
the other OSes step for step into the Ubuntu structure (repository, live cds
and so on).
> There is already a
> derivative of Ubuntu using the OpenSolaris kernel, for example.
Thank you very much for bringing this distribution into discussion.
As cool as Nexenta - the Ubuntu OpenSolaris mix disro - is it has in my eyes
one flaw:
It mixes two worlds - the world of (Open)Solaris and GNU/Linux- on a very low
level : It uses the kernel
of on OS (Solaris) and uses the (low level) libraries and userland of another
(GNU/Linux).
This mix is not good.
For one: The low level libs of GNU and also the userland is today developed
with Linux in mind.
But - staying in this example - (Open)Solaris has its own proven and tested
libs and userland which the
users of this operating system like and know. The mix on this level is - today
at least - not good.
For two: Users who want to use (Open)Solaris want the full (Open)Solaris
"experience" (I hope you can see
what I want to say here.) There are many who don't like the GNu userland for
example.
(For three: -As the Ubuntu folks come from Debian they would understand this -
The mixing of libs and userland
Nexenta does is not clean as the license questions are stil not solved today.)
> So what is it that you are proposing specifically?
What I want is to combine the worlds of several free operating systems with the
"philosophy" of Ubuntu:
ease of use, shiny new releases every eye blink , cool community, "business
awareness" but - with the combination
of several operating systems under Ubuntu - the _full_ choice the free software
world gives.
Let me specify this - with the things I wrote above in mind- in the example of
Ubuntu/OpenSolaris:
The original OpenSolaris with its libs and docus and userland (in the
OpenSolaris world these are called consolidations)
+ The packages to get all the functionality of a Ubuntu Release (CD/DVD) from
the Blastwave repository (this is
a repo which gives the Solaris user an "apt-get like structure".
+ The Ubuntu specific programs and packages ported to OpenSolaris (for example
the installer, the update notifier but
also the Gnome adaptations of Ubuntu).
Please have in mind here that the OpenSolaris world stays as it is and it is
known to the user (with some very little adaptations).
This all combined in the Ubuntu repositories , with the apropriate user mailing
lists and forums, tested for half year release
as Ubuntu/GNU/Linux is tested and released every six months.
("Port" this example to the other proposed operating systems FreeBSD, NetBSD).
The end user gets a web-site,
where he clicks and chooses the operating system he wants to test/learn/use,
where he clicks and chooses the desktop environment and "experience" he wants
under the chosen OS (Gnome,KDE,XFCE)
where he clicks and chooses the kind of release he wants to download (CD/DVD,
mybe USB sticks in the future).
So in the end every one would get :
the __full__ choice the world of free software gives the user
but with the community support structure of Ubuntu today.
I hope that my example made it clear what I proposed.
Thank you for your questions.
regards
Gueven
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