John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > Maybe. But the paradigm isn't really that pressing the Close > button minimizes the window to the systray.
I beg to differ. Think as a user, not a developer. I submit that _users_ do not generally understand a difference between minimizing to the tray or the task bar - except that they know something minimized to the task bar is taking up more space. > The paradigm is that closing a > window closes that window *and* that closing a window never closes a > service. Again, I disagree. Users think "close" and don't stop to think... > I think most people would be confused if e.g. clicking close on > the main sound preferences dialog stopped the sound server. ...what closing a sound server means. I think most people are confused by _any_ change to their system. [I'm confused by the fact that Firefox now has the ability to hang my entire machine, which it only started to do with the last upgrade] Yes, making the close button shut down a server and the minimize button minimize to either the task bar or the system tray _would_ be initially confusing but imo is more logical, and would be more intuitive. > Arguably, the > fact that you can get the window back via the systray doesn't mean that > the *window* has been minimized to the systray any more than saying that > we "minimize" a document window to the "My Documents" folder. Certainly it doesn't - but it means nothing to the user that the window was actually destroyed rather than minimized. > > I think nobody expects the "X" button to close services that were started > on start-up. I think you're wrong. I think the typical user is surprised to find that those things are still running after he's "closed" them. Unfortunately, what you and I _think_ is pretty much irrelevant, since nobody has ever made much attempt to figure out what our _users_ think. -- derek -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss