2012/10/18 Jordon Bedwell <jor...@envygeeks.com> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Nicolas Michel > <be.nicolas.mic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To be honnest I never gave a try to Ubuntu One, probably for bad > > conservative reasons. I will try it. But I still feel that even if you're > > right that pushing things into the cloud make things simpler, there are > > still some flaws : > > Most of these flaws are always subjective, except when it comes to > security, since UbuntuOne still does not have encryption (from last I > heard) it's not a viable solution for people who need to backup secure > documents, and it comes at a cost too since AmazonS3 now supports > built-in encryption without the need of a 3rd party source. It comes > at even more of a cost when people realize that s3fs is not hard to > use at all. I don't know why Canonical or Ubuntu or whoever owns it > does not see these problems but whatever, I'm not their CTO. > > > - what if we don't have access to internet and only want to share on the > > Then you share the folder via LAN while still allowing UbuntuOne to > Sync. Ubuntu does not prevent you from accessing the folder at all, > or doing what you want with it, except renaming it, you do have to > play a little bit of filesystem trickery to rename it as a normal > user. > At the base it's a thread about sharing content. So I know that using Ubuntu One doesn't prevent me to share the same content also with Samba or something else. But my previous mail was talking about a simple app to auto-configure sharing and choosing the best me in function of the purpose and location of user A and B.
> > > - what with DLNA ? Are users needs to be technical guys to be able to > use. > > What has DLNA got to do with normal file storage? It's not content > hosting. Unless they started with it recently and went CDN which > would be pretty amazing considering they have no support for things > like the WD Live, Sony/Samsung/LG Blueray or others but a quick Google > search suggests they are not a content provider. > A user don't care about a technical word definition: I agree that DLNA is not content hosting. But when a user want to "share", maybe it means that the best solution for what he wants to do is DLNA? > > - of course I think about the speed. To come-back on my earlier exemple > in a > > gaming LAN : what if I want to share some Gigs of data to others in the > same > > LAN? It can't be done through Ubuntu One I guess? Although technical > > solutions exists to do it (and really the most simple seems to me webdav > - a > > pretty good solution I think but until now it's usage never really > > took-off). > > Speed is more or less on your end, That's the point. If I want to share to a point A to B, maybe that it will be really much faster to share the content in webdav or samba than with Ubuntu One. if Canonical is smart they will > geo-host via AWS (that is unless they build their own infrastructure > then you would hope they still zone.) If they are on AWS they have > access to a pipes bigger by 10x if not more than anything you could > get for less than 10-50K (1-50K realistically depending on the type of > servers they get) a month unless you are in KC (or North California) > and manage to convince Google to make your area a Fibrehood. > > Nobody is stopping you from sharing "gigs" of data though. If you are > suggesting using it for storing games and what-have-you so called > "live-data" then that's on you because no storage service like Ubuntu > one is designed for that sort of thing, that requires an entirely > different stack design, one that thinks about what happens between > point a and point b and not one that only wants you to make it to > point b. People often assume that servers are the same, they are not. > Generally, I don't say Ubuntu One is not a good thing. I think it is part of the solution but not all the solution by itself. That's why I was talking about a kind of app wrapper to help people sharing the best way to serve their purpose. -- Nicolas MICHEL
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