So, nobody agree the idea of a "smart" sharing app'? 2012/10/18 Nicolas Michel <be.nicolas.mic...@gmail.com>
> 2012/10/18 Jordon Bedwell <jor...@envygeeks.com> > >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Nicolas Michel >> <be.nicolas.mic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > To be honnest I never gave a try to Ubuntu One, probably for bad >> > conservative reasons. I will try it. But I still feel that even if >> you're >> > right that pushing things into the cloud make things simpler, there are >> > still some flaws : >> >> Most of these flaws are always subjective, except when it comes to >> security, since UbuntuOne still does not have encryption (from last I >> heard) it's not a viable solution for people who need to backup secure >> documents, and it comes at a cost too since AmazonS3 now supports >> built-in encryption without the need of a 3rd party source. It comes >> at even more of a cost when people realize that s3fs is not hard to >> use at all. I don't know why Canonical or Ubuntu or whoever owns it >> does not see these problems but whatever, I'm not their CTO. >> >> > - what if we don't have access to internet and only want to share on the >> >> Then you share the folder via LAN while still allowing UbuntuOne to >> Sync. Ubuntu does not prevent you from accessing the folder at all, >> or doing what you want with it, except renaming it, you do have to >> play a little bit of filesystem trickery to rename it as a normal >> user. >> > At the base it's a thread about sharing content. So I know that using > Ubuntu One doesn't prevent me to share the same content also with Samba or > something else. But my previous mail was talking about a simple app to > auto-configure sharing and choosing the best me in function of the purpose > and location of user A and B. > >> >> > - what with DLNA ? Are users needs to be technical guys to be able to >> use. >> >> What has DLNA got to do with normal file storage? It's not content >> hosting. Unless they started with it recently and went CDN which >> would be pretty amazing considering they have no support for things >> like the WD Live, Sony/Samsung/LG Blueray or others but a quick Google >> search suggests they are not a content provider. >> > > A user don't care about a technical word definition: I agree that DLNA is > not content hosting. But when a user want to "share", maybe it means that > the best solution for what he wants to do is DLNA? > > >> > - of course I think about the speed. To come-back on my earlier exemple >> in a >> > gaming LAN : what if I want to share some Gigs of data to others in the >> same >> > LAN? It can't be done through Ubuntu One I guess? Although technical >> > solutions exists to do it (and really the most simple seems to me >> webdav - a >> > pretty good solution I think but until now it's usage never really >> > took-off). >> >> Speed is more or less on your end, > > > That's the point. If I want to share to a point A to B, maybe that it will > be really much faster to share the content in webdav or samba than with > Ubuntu One. > > if Canonical is smart they will >> geo-host via AWS (that is unless they build their own infrastructure >> then you would hope they still zone.) If they are on AWS they have >> access to a pipes bigger by 10x if not more than anything you could >> get for less than 10-50K (1-50K realistically depending on the type of >> servers they get) a month unless you are in KC (or North California) >> and manage to convince Google to make your area a Fibrehood. >> >> Nobody is stopping you from sharing "gigs" of data though. If you are >> suggesting using it for storing games and what-have-you so called >> "live-data" then that's on you because no storage service like Ubuntu >> one is designed for that sort of thing, that requires an entirely >> different stack design, one that thinks about what happens between >> point a and point b and not one that only wants you to make it to >> point b. People often assume that servers are the same, they are not. >> > > Generally, I don't say Ubuntu One is not a good thing. I think it is part > of the solution but not all the solution by itself. That's why I was > talking about a kind of app wrapper to help people sharing the best way to > serve their purpose. > > -- > Nicolas MICHEL > -- Nicolas MICHEL
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