> Hi Luis, > > I strongly disagree. > > For my everyday production environment I run Arch Linux since February > 2012 with a clean systemd. > > This year in July I installed Wily from the server ISO on this > multi-boot machine. What I got wasn't a "Full Systemd Experience", but > a mess with init scripts and wrappers/workarounds. > > Btw. I'm still not used to systemd after using it for around 3 years, > but for my workflow a clean systemd at least is easier to handle, than > the Wily hybrid. > > You might get used to the Wily hybrid systemd within 30 seconds, you > also might get used to a clean systemd within 30 seconds, but Wily > definitively is a mix including init script and wrappers/workarounds and > absolutely _not_ a "Full Systemd Experience". > > Regards, > Ralf
Well argued, thanks Ralf. It would definitely be better if/when every script changes to systemd way of doing things. However, we know inertia won't let that happen. People are content with the things that work. I find plenty of problems with not having simple tools that allow you to quickly sort through mundane tasks. A chkconfig like tool is needed, even if it's overkill. Having to remember to create a file with a filename matching some string and update with some command, while being sure it's a full moon and it's before midnight on a Friday, it's just too much. Simple works best. Same command for all init systems. The documentation becomes very easy and newbies get the full Sysadmin Experience ™ from the get go. In any case, you're correct Ralf that the experience is not the best. -- Luis -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
