On 06/15/2012 10:26 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 15/06/2012 17:05, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >> I don't think you get to have it both ways. Either we stabilize an >> image and >> put a stamp on it and we need some kind of freeze or we don't. Trying >> to let >> developers continue to do their work while ignoring the milestone just >> pushes >> the problem of getting things fixed for the milestone on the release >> team. > Hey, > > Yeah, you are right there, so if we get working dailies every day do we > still need alphas at all? > > Ideally we would have the automatic testing flagging isos "green" when > they have no issue (with the goal to always have them good) and we would > recommend people to just pick the current green iso. > > Can we just drop the image rolling part of milestones? We still probably > want fixed checkpoints in the cycle to review the features, etc but they > don't especially need to be linked with a special image... >
With our dailies, I've found that the milestones are most useful for planning bug fix landings and feature deliverables. I'd be +1 on dropping alphas all together. If we need some specific test feedback on a given image, we can always issue calls for testing like we've done in the past. However, if we drop alphas, I think we might want to keep a single beta and consider an earlier RC in place of the Beta 2. These releases are typically aimed at getting the less developer savy/bug tolerant users to test and provide feedback, so I could see perhaps a more strenuous QA process put in place for them, i.e. for system integrated/stress testing, versus the typical Unit/Functional automated testing we have reporting to jenkins. It would also be good for the release team to have a couple practice runs before the real deal ;). Just my $0.02 -Robbie -- Robbie Williamson <rob...@ubuntu.com> robbiew[irc.freenode.net] "Don't make me angry...you wouldn't like me when I'm angry." -Bruce Banner -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel