On Friday 20 July 2007 16:28:18 Bill Filler wrote: > Ken, > The screens look good. See my comments below: > > On Jul 20, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > > On Friday 20 July 2007 08:52:32 you wrote: > > <snip> > > > >> Thanks for the pictures :) > > > > Glas you like them :-) > > > >> A few questions: > >> * Is "Settings" part so important that has to be always available? > >> Is it about device settings or application settings? > > > > This is one of the major questions. Should we have a global > > settings "app" in > > which all settings are stored for all apps or should we have some > > settings > > tool available per app. Apple does it mainly with the global > > settings iirc > > and it gets kinda annoying. The Pepper Pad seemed to do it better > > with the > > important per-app settings available in the app itself. > > On the Pepper Pad there are global settings which apply to the > overall system (i.e. wifi, date/time, power mgmt, etc..) and then app > specific settings. The way you have the UI designed with the Settings > button always visible, perhaps when you are viewing the Home/ > Applications screen the Settings would take you to the system wide > settings page and when you are in an application, the Settings would > take you to the app specific settings page.
Exactly. I wasn't sure how to visually differintiate between the system wide settings and the per app settings nor if it is necessary. > > >> * How one switches between an active application and applications > >> view? > >> * How one swtiches between applications? > > > > Another "great idea" which I realized in advance would be popular :p > > > > Note also that there are no close or minimize buttons on the open > > apps. The > > idea behind is this: > > > > The "home" button always has a way to get to the "apps" page where > > one can > > pick an app, start it, restart/rechoose it. Note that in this > > version there > > are also no menus. Everything you see shows up fullscreen, although > > some > > things in the status bar will be an almost fullscreen overlay > > (which one > > could argue is just an associated pop-up and therefor really a menu). > > > > Using a task switcher menu turns out to be just as many steps, and > > more > > confusing that keeping things flat and simple. Again, this is an > > idea and I'm > > not really sure if it is possible to realize such functionality. > > Seems like this model could work, but would add a few steps for some > operations. If I understand correctly, if I'm in an app and I want to > close it, I would have to do 1)click home button 2)click "apps" > button from home page 3) select my app 4) press stop/restart. That's > a lot of steps which would be eliminated if you had a close button > somewhere in the marquee. Or maybe you never really "close" an app > because it gets hibernated when not using it so that's not an issue? > The original idea was to never have to close or minimize an app. Not sure how saving document changes would work. > Regarding switching between running apps, wouldn't using a task > switcher directly from the marquee (i.e. a drop down menu listing the > running apps) be one less step than clicking "home"->"apps"->select app? > I've tried to stay away from using any menus, as on smaller devices they are hard to touch and in high contrast lighting hard to see. Praticaly speaking we might have to use such a menu. Earlier mockups show such a menu so I am leaving it out for now. > Also, if an app had multiple open views, how do you navigate between > views within the application? There should be some indication of the > open views within an app and a way to navigate them. > depending upon how the apps work this might very well be a problem which could be solved by tabs (just like the browser issue). > >> * Browser does not seem to have tabs, it would be very > >> interesting to > >> see how it's gonna look with tabs (tabs seem to be quite popular > >> demand (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1695) also UI Style > >> Guide page suggest browser would have tabs). > > > > Erm, I knew I forgot something. Naturally, I will be adding tabs :-) > > > >> Probably applications and settings stuff was outlined elsewhere, in > >> this case apologize for my ignorance and kindly ask to provide me > >> with > >> a link where I could read more about it... > > > > No worries, you've noticed the major issues - here would be a good > > place to > > discuss them > > > > Ken > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-mobile mailing list > > Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > > listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
