Bill Filler wrote:
> I believe for Network Admin and Date/Time settings, Todd was planning
> on providing a patch to gnome-system-tools for the UI changes
> necessary for running in the hildon environment. But I'm not sure
> about all of the other control panel applets. Todd, does it make
> sense to do this for all the control-panel applets so that it's
> easier to stay in sync with upstream, rather than forking and having
> the code live in moblin?      

In the short term the UI changes are minimal while we get our feet on
the ground, but eventually there might be radical changes.  For example,
the standard Linux keyboard configuration tool might have 40 options
today while a simplified MID UI might only expose 5.  

In another world, I looked at Claws for the first time with the new LPIA
build.  It is so cluttered with controls and menus that it makes my MID
feel very small.

I agree with Matt that we should always attempt to push changes
upstream.  Non-UI changes seem like a no-brainer.  In time upstream
component owners might have to decide if they want to support a
Hildon-esque UI in addition to their standard UI which could be more
than a few #define's.

Lastly, perhaps we could agree on some standards for branching existing
projects.  For example #ifdef <tag>, for code, Makefile.am,
configure.in, etc.  Then we could easily go to a project and find
where/if someone else had added mobile-device-specific changes.  

<tag> = MID or UME or HILDON or MOBILE
(My vote is "MID")
Bob

> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:36:04PM -0400, Pat McGowan wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When custom versions of gnome based components are created, is it
>>> the intention to manage these as patches upstream in gnome, for
>>> example in the gnome mobile project? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If not, what is the plan to sync these customizations with
>>> upstream changes?
>> 
>> As far as development in Ubuntu goes, our intention is to merge
>> upstream anything which can be reasonably generalized.
>> 
>> Regarding the Moblin components derived from GNOME, I believe Todd
>> Brandt is the person to ask about their plans.  Hopefully the
>> changes can be merged upstream (maybe with a --with-hildon configure
>> option or similar). 
>> 
>> 
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