On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 16:09:24 -0700, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: >My proposal would be to move from Xfce to MATE
Ubuntu Mate is pretty good these days. It's the distro and desktop environment I would recommend to users who want something working OOTB for mailing, browsing and office work and who don't want to go further into Linux. Actually I'm using Ubuntu Mate 17.10 from a DVD to backup my Ubuntu and Arch Linux installs and all my data. When making backups I test different live media from time to time and Ubuntu Mate is one of the better, if not the best OOTB working Linux. As far as I'm concerned, I'm using openbox only for my installs. I'm aware that for Xfce4 changed a lot within the last years. I once used it myself and for good reasons stopped using it. However, there is one good reason to stay with Xfce4, as long as it shouldn't become buggy, bloated or should suffer seriously from anything else. Users who decided to install Ubuntu Studio are used to Xfce4, migrating to another desktop environment does break their workflow and it would be tricky to run do-release-upgrade. Users who want Ubuntu Studio with another desktop environment or just a window manager such as openbox, could install another Ubuntu flavour, even use the server image and install the desired meta-packages, see https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntustudio&searchon=names&suite=artful§ion=all . Secondarily one benefit of Xfce4 perhaps still is, that it hopefully still could be configured from command line by human readable configurations, by just using an editor, set or echo. From command line Mate requires usage of gsettings or dconf, so for those users who want to learn more about Linux, Xfce4 seems to be the better starting point. IMO people who want to stay with Linux as their operating system, should learn how the infrastructure works. There's no need to become a coder, but soon or later it's wise to become a power user through fun, not by a hard learning curve. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel