On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 15:46 -0400, Michael Dickson wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 13:17 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote: 
> > 
> > check out gnome3 here http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html and see what
> > you think. assuming gnome3 is an acceptable DE for ubuntustudio, it
> > cannot be disputed that it is a drastic change from gnome2, and its
> > arguable that XFCE is actually more like gnome2 than gnome3 is. i have
> > been hanging out in the #gnome channel on freenode looking into what
> > 'compatibility mode' is in gnome3, and how to get it running, and if
> > it is indeed the same as gnome3, and if it is going to be part of
> > gnome3 in the long term. to quote from the IRC channel 'gnome2 is
> > dead'. that being said, feel free to actually go and check out gnome3
> > for yourself, and report on its functionality. thanks
> 
> I have actually run Gnome3.  And like others I struggled with it a bit
> initially. But after using it for a little while I found it very nice.
> It is a big change however, no disputing that.
> 
> I'll weigh in with this opinion.  I believe Ubuntu Studio should track
> the "default" Ubuntu desktop for the release track its on.  In the time
> frame being discussed that would actually mean Unity as I understand it.
> Unity has its own issues and represents a big change.  But it will be
> the default for the platform and therefore likely have the largest user
> base for the DE environments supported.  And that user based insures
> testing and stability for US. 
> 
> Now if someone isn't comfortable with that approach an alternative that
> should be available is installing the Ubuntu flavor you prefer (like
> XUbuntu for instance) and retrofitting packages from Studio on top of
> it.  So no reason I cant run studio bits under XFCE.  But the default
> should be the "default" for the distribution.  
> 
> That's my take and the argument for it.
> 
> Mike

The averaged Ubuntu user isn't a home recording or professional studio
user. A long time ago I used KDE3 (on Suse and Debian). When they
stopped KDE3 and switched to KDE4, I switched to GNOME. KDE4 has a lot
of advantages, but the workflow changed and it became less good for the
way I'm using the desktop environment, especially when making music.

If it's similar for the change from GNOME2 to GNOME3, it would be nice
to get an already set up substitution.

Installing Ubuntu Studio from the Ubuntu Studio media caused issues
here, installing Edubunt + Ubuntu Studio packages result in a good DAW.
So for me the only problem might be, that installing the Ubuntu Studio
packages might force me to keep XFCE too, even if I shouldn't use it,
but yes, it's no big deal to have several WMs/DEs installed and to chose
one, when logging in. XFCE shouldn't become a dependency for all Ubuntu
Studio meta packages.

Regarding to computer resources, the best environment I ever used, was a
frame based environment. Ion2. But short-cuts aren't good when you've
got one hand on the guitar, the other on the mixing console and you need
to start the recording with your nose.

Ralf




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