On 27 November 2012 14:42, Paul Tansom <p...@aptanet.com> wrote:
> ** Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> [2012-11-27 14:49]:
>> On 27 November 2012 14:13, Paul Tansom <p...@aptanet.com> wrote:
>> > I have a server (i.e. no desktop software, X, or etc. - not that this 
>> > necessarily follows, but it does with me!)...
>> >
>> > ...anyway, this server is currently running Ubuntu 6.06LTS and I need to 
>> > upgrade to 12.04LTS. Clearly I have two options, either upgrade or 
>> > reinstall. Reinstall seems safer, bar the fact that there is some software 
>> > that I would need to disect the configuration of to reinstate (a backup 
>> > using BoxBackup to be precise); that points towards a step by step upgrade 
>> > path (8.04, 10.04 and 12.04), but I'm somewhat nervous of the number of 
>> > possible gotchas present in this. Has anyone done this and could comment? 
>> > Did it go smoothly?!
>>
>> As "untouchableangel" said - with so many steps in between, a clean
>> install would be preferable.
>>
>> If you have the means to do a full backup first, though, I'd also
>> agree - for now, go to 8.04 and then 10.04 and leave it at that for
>> now. It's still supported, 12.04 is fairly new, and you could put off
>> the 3rd upgrade until later.
>>
>> Another option along the same lines: run one of the many free P2V
>> tools, get your 6.06 image running inside a VM, then do a test-run
>> upgrade in that "safe" environment.
>>
>> P2V means "physical to virtual". VMware do a free one, I think, which
>> you could run under VMware Player, also free. I am not sure that
>> VirtualBox has a free one but it would probably import the VMware one
>> made with VMware's P2V tool.
>>
>> Once you know exactly what you're doing and that it works in the VM,
>> then (after a full backup!) you could do the "real" machine.
>>
>> Another thought:
>>
>> What used to be called VMware ESXi & is now called vSphere Hypervisor
>> is free. Only restriction: max 32GB server RAM. That's still quite a
>> lot. Snag: you need vSphere to manage it; it's Windows-only.
>>
>> After you've done your P2V conversion, you could bung that on the
>> physical box and run your VM directly on it.
>>
>> I am assuming it's a physical server, [a] because of its age and [b]
>> because if it was already virtualised, a backup and test-upgrade would
>> be fairly trivial.
> ** end quote [Liam Proven]
>
> Yes it is a physical server, and I have the advantage of installing to brand 
> new disks, so backup isn't an issue as I won't be touching the previous 
> install :) I prefer the reinstall, and am familiar with the configuration 
> (fully documented and updated for a 12.04 install). The BoxBackup is the bit 
> that is making me nervous because I don't have access to the server at the 
> other end or accounts/passwords bar what is in the config (which should be 
> all that is needed!). I'm pretty sure rebuilding the config is going to be 
> the preferred option, particularly as I'll have the original install handy - 
> just need to make sure I don't confuse the backups with the different 
> installs trying to update them!!!

Fair enough.

I do know quite a few sysadmins who by default install on top of a
hypervisor, even when it's a single instance on a single box, just
because it makes backup/restore/recovery so much easier.

Inside a VM, the hardware is standard, so if the magic smoke ever
escapes from your server, you can take a totally different box, put
ESXi on it, restore your VM and it will work with no reconfiguration
at all. Worth considering/trying.

Not ideal if you need software RAID or something, though, clearly -
but if it's important, you should have hardware RAID!

Microsoft Hyper-V Server is freeware as well but again you'll need a
Windows 8 box to manage it with the (freeware) RSAT kit.

vSphere Hypervisor can be managed with vSphere Client running on WinXP
inside a Virtualbox VM on Ubuntu - I've done it. It might even work on
WINE.

There are free 3rd party backup/restore programs for ESXi. Ditto,
remote-management tools which might run on Linux.

FWIW, I think it is foolish and even suicidal of VMware to depend upon
Windows for management, but what can you do...


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