Nice Rant Gerald,

Nice way to justify a position at the expense of open-mindedness and fairness 
and even in a discourteous way, but it sure does tell a lot about who you are.

Want to make a French speaking only conference - call it XXX of Suisse Romande. 
Want to organize something in german only - don't call it SWISS - call it 
SWISS-GERMAN. That is the rationale and dependencies, whatever you call it. You 
want to call it SWISS - make it in a way that INCLUDES all the 3 national 
language group of the country of which you are using the name for the 
conference, not EXCLUDE two of them.

National exhibitions in this country, those that use the term SWISS in the name 
of the event, they make contents available in 3 languages, want examples or 
have you noticed ? International or multi-linguistic computing events generally 
happen in english - never noticed? Same as every document published by the 
scientific community do you think it's only for the people of UK and USA or 
could it be because english is the language of international cooperation in 
science and computing ? In what language are the documents published by Sun / 
Oracle and others ? And the discussion boards and of the open solaris community 
? And the discussions on this list ? Do you think that it is because it is 
intended only for the UK and USA natives ? Or could it be that it is the only 
way to INCLUDE the largest numbers and EXCLUDE the fewest ?

If source code was commented in hindi / swedish / arabic / turkish / 
swiss-german and documentations released only in the locale of the developer, 
do you think we would have open-source - open-anything ?

Oh and by the way - your little comments like "And if you're an immigrant go 
and learn OUR culture/language and don't try to force the swiss to become an 
enclave of your country" that is really a fear-based close-minded xenophobic 
attitude. Nobody is forcing the swiss to become an enclave, don't be so afraid 
and defensive. And because you voted against minarets - that won't happen in 
your neighborhood also. So why don't you relax on the fear and the anger a 
little bit - you're SAFE, all is well, nobody is going to trap you in any 
enclave. It's a free country and you can defend the concept of a SWISS 
conference that happens at the EXCLUSION of all SWISS that do not speak german 
and you can feel JUSTIFIED and RIGHTEOUS about that.

Have a great life gerald, although I suspect that it must feel tight and 
claustrophobic in such a small space of openness and tolerance.

Cedric


On 3 mars 2010, at 13:59, gerald.eggenberger at sunwave.ch wrote:

> Hi Cedric
> 
> what dependencies do you have between open and language?
> A german developer who comment his code in german but release his code to OSS 
> doesn't write open Software???
> 
> The Expo is located in Berne (german speaking territory). Therefore german is 
> the most prefered language for people visiting the OpenExpo.
> So why publish content in english? For people from the uk/usa?
> The second thing is, that the OpenExpo is organized by /ch/open/ a german 
> speaking Association.
> 
> The national languages are german, french, italian and Rhaeto-Romanic.
> Therefore it would be more obvious to publish content in these languages 
> rather than in english.
> 
> The Swiss Confederation has it's own languages and culture. I am proud of it 
> and against the movement as side-effect of globalisation to accept the 
> english language as pseudo-standard for (inter)national communication.
> 
> BtW it's interessting that you of all people are holding 
> swissknight.org/.net; The Swissknight - the signboard of switzerland par 
> excellence.
> 
> So if you like an english spoken Event about OpenSource go to english spoken 
> territory or feel free to organize an Event matching your requirements by 
> yourself. But don't complain about too less attendees.
> 
>> can we expect conferences to be in english - or in german - anybody knows?
> Why don't you ask for conferences in french? Your located near geneva, right?
> 
> Just because we are an open and multicultural country doesn't mean that we 
> have to prefere/equate all foreign languages with the national languages.
> And if you're an immigrant go and learn OUR culture/language and don't try to 
> force the swiss to become an enclave of your country.
> 
> Thanks for understanding..
> 
> Best regards.
> G?rald
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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