"Swiss / Suisse / Schweizer" does not mean that the event *must* be multilingual. See e.g. Comptoir Suisse (http://www.comptoir.ch/) in Lausanne - ever tried to speak German there? Or OLMA Schweizer Messe f?r Landwirtschaft und Ern?hrung, http://www.olma-messen.ch/index.php?id=3 in St.Gallen, mainly a German speaking event. Both are routinely visited by members of the Federal Council. MUBA Basel http://www.muba.ch/ has a bilingual home page (D/F), mainly because France is literally just across the street.
So OpenExpo does not abuse the word Swiss in its announcements. On a side remark: Switzerland has 4 official languages, and the population of at least 3 of the 4 languages is, to a large degree, fluent in at least one or even two of the other languages and happy to practice it. Harald who has no problem visiting a French trade show ----------------------------- Dr. Harald von Fellenberg Tel: +41-(0)44-821-1996 HVF Security Consulting Mobile: +41-79-349-0393 Sch?tzenr?tistrasse 19 http://www.hvf.ch CH-8044 Gockhausen Switzerland mailto:hvf at hvf.ch Cedric Tineo schrieb: > Nice Rant Gerald, > > Nice way to justify a position at the expense of open-mindedness and fairness > and even in a discourteous way, but it sure does tell a lot about who you are. > > Want to make a French speaking only conference - call it XXX of Suisse > Romande. Want to organize something in german only - don't call it SWISS - > call it SWISS-GERMAN. That is the rationale and dependencies, whatever you > call it. You want to call it SWISS - make it in a way that INCLUDES all the 3 > national language group of the country of which you are using the name for > the conference, not EXCLUDE two of them. > > National exhibitions in this country, those that use the term SWISS in the > name of the event, they make contents available in 3 languages, want examples > or have you noticed ? International or multi-linguistic computing events > generally happen in english - never noticed? Same as every document published > by the scientific community do you think it's only for the people of UK and > USA or could it be because english is the language of international > cooperation in science and computing ? In what language are the documents > published by Sun / Oracle and others ? And the discussion boards and of the > open solaris community ? And the discussions on this list ? Do you think that > it is because it is intended only for the UK and USA natives ? Or could it be > that it is the only way to INCLUDE the largest numbers and EXCLUDE the fewest > ? > > If source code was commented in hindi / swedish / arabic / turkish / > swiss-german and documentations released only in the locale of the developer, > do you think we would have open-source - open-anything ? > > Oh and by the way - your little comments like "And if you're an immigrant go > and learn OUR culture/language and don't try to force the swiss to become an > enclave of your country" that is really a fear-based close-minded xenophobic > attitude. Nobody is forcing the swiss to become an enclave, don't be so > afraid and defensive. And because you voted against minarets - that won't > happen in your neighborhood also. So why don't you relax on the fear and the > anger a little bit - you're SAFE, all is well, nobody is going to trap you in > any enclave. It's a free country and you can defend the concept of a SWISS > conference that happens at the EXCLUSION of all SWISS that do not speak > german and you can feel JUSTIFIED and RIGHTEOUS about that. > > Have a great life gerald, although I suspect that it must feel tight and > claustrophobic in such a small space of openness and tolerance. > > Cedric > > > On 3 mars 2010, at 13:59, gerald.eggenberger at sunwave.ch wrote: > >> Hi Cedric >> >> what dependencies do you have between open and language? >> A german developer who comment his code in german but release his code to >> OSS doesn't write open Software??? >> >> The Expo is located in Berne (german speaking territory). Therefore german >> is the most prefered language for people visiting the OpenExpo. >> So why publish content in english? For people from the uk/usa? >> The second thing is, that the OpenExpo is organized by /ch/open/ a german >> speaking Association. >> >> The national languages are german, french, italian and Rhaeto-Romanic. >> Therefore it would be more obvious to publish content in these languages >> rather than in english. >> >> The Swiss Confederation has it's own languages and culture. I am proud of it >> and against the movement as side-effect of globalisation to accept the >> english language as pseudo-standard for (inter)national communication. >> >> BtW it's interessting that you of all people are holding >> swissknight.org/.net; The Swissknight - the signboard of switzerland par >> excellence. >> >> So if you like an english spoken Event about OpenSource go to english spoken >> territory or feel free to organize an Event matching your requirements by >> yourself. But don't complain about too less attendees. >> >>> can we expect conferences to be in english - or in german - anybody knows? >> Why don't you ask for conferences in french? Your located near geneva, right? >> >> Just because we are an open and multicultural country doesn't mean that we >> have to prefere/equate all foreign languages with the national languages. >> And if you're an immigrant go and learn OUR culture/language and don't try >> to force the swiss to become an enclave of your country. >> >> Thanks for understanding.. >> >> Best regards. >> G?rald >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Switzerland OpenSolaris Mailing List >> ug-chosug at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ug-chosug >> wiki: http://wikis.sun.com/display/chosug >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=161188&trk=hb_side_g >> ISO images: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/opensolaris.org/release_isos/ >> IPS: http://ips.osug.ch:10000/release/ >> Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31224908 at N08 > > _______________________________________________ > Switzerland OpenSolaris Mailing List > ug-chosug at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ug-chosug > wiki: http://wikis.sun.com/display/chosug > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=161188&trk=hb_side_g > ISO images: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/opensolaris.org/release_isos/ > IPS: http://ips.osug.ch:10000/release/ > Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31224908 at N08
