Kasangwawo

Nothing new in that thinking. For if you took the time to read the papers of
the French in Quebec they have a sentence which goes kind of, We want to
secede from Canada but if we secede we must have a right to return if things
do not work out.

We need to move from these very strange days indeed.

Em

            The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?


> Mulindwa,
>
> this is where we shall always differ. You are telling me to be a Ugandan
> before I am a Muganda. I'm afraid this will never be. I'll always be a
> Muganda first and not the other way round - this goes to the essence of my
> identity. But this doesn't stop me from being part of the entity called
> Uganda.
> Let's just agree to disagree.
>
> Kasangwawo
>
> >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?
> >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:39:54 -0400
> >
> >Mwaami Kasangwawo
> >
> >What Monitor posts is what we have written, but have you ever wondered,
may
> >be we spend all our lives criticizing a party which left power more than
> >twenty years ago? Mwaami Kasangwawo we have today civil servants in
> >Northern
> >Uganda, who have not been paid for a year, when did you complain about
> >that?
> >If it was civil servants in Mpigi would have you made it a by the way
> >issue?
> >Mwaami Kasangwawo, to me this is not about whether Buganda cares about
the
> >war in Northern Uganda, that to me does not really matter, what matters
to
> >me is the total disregard of our nation. For when you think that Uganda
is
> >only Buganda, and all discussions must be based on promoting only
Buganda.
> >That is more dangerous to Uganda as a state than yelling about the war.
> >
> >Our nation is in very serious problems, problems which would not even
reach
> >where they are if we attacked them as national problems. Like I said
> >before,
> >let us be Ugandans before we are Baganda. You will see a difference even
> >into our leaders, but failing to recognise that, then do not be
embarrassed
> >when Buganda is made a campaign issue, "I will be a friend of Buganda"
> >Actually what he meant, was that he was going to give every Muganda 500
> >dollars a month free, for life, so that all Baganda can easily meet their
> >daily expenses.
> >
> >Good night Mwaami Kasangwawo,
> >A known happy Muganda in today's Uganda
> >
> >Em
> >
> >             The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> >             Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:48 AM
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?
> >
> >
> > > Oh yeah ? Have you ever seen any article critical of the UPC in the
> >Monitor
> > > ? But as soon as some nincompoop posts something (which in this case
> >could
> > > potentially incite ethnic hatred), as long as it is anti-Baganda, the
> > > Monitor publishes it. Does the Monitor think we, the readers, don't
> >notice
> > > these things ?
> > >
> > > Kasangwawo
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?
> > > >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:09:16 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Mwaami Kasangwawo
> > > >
> > > >Monitor does not control flow of information and that is the
difference
> > > >between Monitor and your self. And on your comments about Buganda, I
> >will
> > > >use the only weapon which has never deluded me, time.
> > > >
> > > >Let us wait we will see.
> > > >
> > > >Be well my Ugandan friend.
> > > >
> > > >Em
> > > >Toronto
> > > >
> > > >             The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > >             Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: jonah kasangwawo
> > > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:03 AM
> > > >   Subject: Re: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Mw. Ssemakula,
> > > >
> > > >   this was but just another of Mulindwa's disjointed, illogical,
> > > >anti-Baganda
> > > >   renditions and I'm at a loss why the Monitor was in such a hurry
to
> > > >publish
> > > >   it. Could it be that the Monitor has a secret motive for doing
this
> >?
> > > >
> > > >   That said, does it really matter WHEN the Kabaka or Nnabagereka or
> > > >Buganda
> > > >   officials started speaking out on the war in northern Uganda ?
What
> >is
> > > >   important is that they have done so.
> > > >
> > > >   Mulindwa and gang should be reminded of the saying that 'you can't
> >have
> > > >your
> > > >   cake and eat it too'. When the Kabaka says something concerning a
> > > >national
> > > >   issue, they say he should not intervene in politics. When he
> >doesn't,
> > > >they
> > > >   still protest. They give the impression that they don't know what
> >they
> > > >   actually want.
> > > >
> > > >   Kasangwawo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   >From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >   >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > >   >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > >   >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?
> > > >   >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:19:29 +0000
> > > >   >
> > > >   ><< message3.txt >>
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> > > >   Gook,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   In addition to my comments of yesterday with regards to Mr.
> >"Mulindwa"
> > > >'s namby-pamby argument in defence of Mr. Muniini, I'd like to add
the
> > > >following:
> > > >
> > > >   1. If it were true that children might be afraid of Luganda
speaking
> > > >soldiers how does change the equation?
> > > >
> > > >   I do not see how one can conclude that everyone who has a
> > > >Kiganda-sounding name or can speak some sort of Luganda is a Muganda
> >any
> > > >more than one can conclude that everyone who speaks the Queen's
English
> >a
> > > >de facto Englishman.
> > > >
> > > >   2. Granted that the Nnaabagereka is relatively a recent entrant on
> >the
> > > >national scene. However this only re-inforces my argument that the
> >Baganda,
> > > >in particular, care deeply about the suffering of our Northern
> >compatriots:
> > > >in that brief time on the national scene the Nnaabagereka has chosen
to
> >add
> > > >Her voice to those advocating for peace.
> > > >
> > > >   3. Let us suppose that it is true that the Kabaka's funds are
> >derived
> > > >from Rwakitura. It is all the more remarkable that inspite of this,
the
> > > >Kabaka of Buganda is still sensitive to the pain  of our Northern
> >brethren.
> > > >
> > > >   And by the way, we the Baganda, are perfectly capable of
supporting
> >our
> > > >Kabaka, thank you very much. Our history of, at least, five hundured
> >(500)
> > > >years is proof enough of that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   4. Speaking of ethnic groups, could you kindly tell us when and
what
> >the
> > > >Banyakigezi (Mr. Muniini being a Munyakigezi) have done or said about
> >this
> > > >tragic war in Northern Uganda?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Ssemakula
> > > >
> > > >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   ----Original Message Follows----
> > > >   From: "gook makanga"
> > > >   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   Subject: ugnet_: Buganda; part of the problem or solution?
> > > >   Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:28:58 +0000
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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