Hallo Mr. Msia,
There have been human rights violations in Tanzania.
There is a certain Peter Munk here who braggs that he made his first billion in the gold mines of Chile. He also seems very close to George Herbert Walker Bush.
This Munk linked up with your guy Mkapa, and the next we heard was that while wananchi were deep underground digging for gold this Munk's agents used big caterpillar tractors and buried/entombed them alive.
Some of us Africans and our Chilean friends held demonstrations here against this heinous crime against our people.
We however were shocked when, on his most recent visit to Ottawa, the first thing Mkapa did was to praise the actions of this neo-con pirate Peter Munk.
And since, as you claim, you "helped us" get rid of Idi Amin may we too petition President Museveni to rid Tanzania of the Chama cha Mapindizi out-fit ?
Otherwise, besides the above crimes there are also the un-ending tears due to oppression in Zanzibar.
Surely since Museveni could overrun DRC in a little over a month, Tanzania should be a walk-over.
In the spirit of good neighborliness though one should undertake such adventures on the premise that you guys are so feeble that you are incapable of rectifying your situation. Otherwise it would be an arrogance and self conceit of the highest order.
For us Ugandans we have had to live (and die ) with the chain of events of 1979, seemingly without relief or end.
All the best.
Mitayo Potosi
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"Both the God of Christianity and the God of Islam are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, like cosmic Saddam Husseins" Philosopher Antony Flew 1922 - .
From: Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda <ugandanet@kym.net>
To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda <ugandanet@kym.net>
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: Tanzanian President Visits Los Angeles
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:15:07 -0500
>Ndugu Msia,
>
>Umekaribishwa humu ukumbi huu. Maoni yako ni muhimu hata wanaukumbi
>wengine hawataki kusema au kusikia haki ya kihistoria.
>
>Don't worry. I don't think anything worse than harsh words will ever
>be exchanged on Ugandanet.
>
>Vukoni
>
>Msia Kibona Clark wrote:
>
>>Vukoni,
>>
>>I must speak up for the Tanzanians. We're already in trouble with
>>the Kenyans. We don't also need problems with the Ugandans.
>>
>>What you say about Obote is true. That was a mistake on our part.
>>But don't forget my brother, we also helped you get rid of Idi
>>Amin.
>>
>>As for Museveni, what you say is also true. Many Tanzanians (&
>>Kenyans) feel Museveni wants to be the King of East Africa. Is it
>>not true?? And I have it from a good source that the EAC is how
>>Museveni is planning to acheive his status. I can't comment on how
>>Kikwete feels but Tanzanians were not happy when Museveni changed
>>the constitution. These are all sources of our distrust.
>>
>>Please don't exile me from the list. I must represent the TZ view
>>from time to time.
>>
>>Msia
>>
>>Date: Sep 23, 2006 2:16 am
>>To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda From: Vukoni
>>Lupa-Lasaga Subj: Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: Tanzanian President Visits Los
>>Angeles
>>
>>MK,
>>
>>You seem to remember only those parts of our history that speak to
>>your sense of loss. If it wasn't for Nyerere and TPDF, Obote and
>>UPC would have found it much harder if at all to return to power in
>>1980. It was an open secret then who the annointed presidential
>>candidate was. If you don't trust the Waswahili as you put it, we
>>must ask ourselves what changed between 1980 and 1985 for Dr.
>>Obote to fall from grace as a favored personal friend of Nyerere
>>onto the plebeian floor as an expendable political potato.
>>
>>And I have it from an impeccable source that Jakaya Kikwete doesn't
>>like your nemesis. This source, who had several conversations on
>>the Great Lakes crisis with Kikwete while he was still minister of
>>foreign affairs told me that Kikwete was quite disparaging of
>>Museveni. For example, Kikwete reportedly thinks Museveni is a
>>loudmouth and a megalomaniac who exaggerates his role in history.
>>For example, in African liberation struggles.
>>
>>Of course of course, I don't want to cause a diplomatic row between
>>Uganda and Tanzania, so I will say no more.
>>
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