Tong Fin wrote:
I really wonder if we're doing ourselves a favor by using
maven for the eclipse plugin and eclipse update site builds.
In eclipse we have all the tooling that we need at our
disposal.  We could maintain the plugin dependencies in the
manifest files, where they belong.


I completely agree with this concern.
It looks like we are over done in this area and trying to shoot a moving
target.

For example, some time ago, some users have the problem to attach the source
code with the plugin and there is no easy solution. Different versions of
Eclipse have different way to build the source code and the recently
released Eclipse 3.5 has a new way to build the "source" plug-in.
This is just one of the example that we have to deal with multiple versions
of Eclipse and try to catch up what Eclipse can do with "maven".

I feel that we and the users have more problems than the benefits that  we
get by having a "single" tool "maven" to build everything.
Yes but the eclipse headless build is even worse then what we have now.
The Cas Editor RCP version was built for 2.2.2 with the eclipse generated
ant build scripts and it always broke when something changed a little.
These eclipse build scripts are like a black box which magically transforms
the source into the binaries, but if something goes wrong you don't get valuable
error messages (or I was not smart enough to understand them).
Since the maven build is now working better and better I think we should stay there.

Jörn

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