Hi Clive & others,

Many thanks for getting back to me, I’ve had a number of off-list responses and 
my apologies if anything came across as a sales pitch! I’m not in sales; and I 
honestly didn’t intend to do anything other than provide the necessary preamble 
to make the reasons for my query clear. I didn’t think for a moment that anyone 
on this list would even need to buy anything from us.

So - Sorry if I offended / distracted with how it was written, I just wanted to 
explain why becoming a reseller of another reseller (or providing actual cloud 
services ourselves) was simply not what we want to do and that we have no 
interest in this as it would place us in competition with our actual customer 
base.

That aside; the responses I’ve received thus far have been suggesting we use a 
3rd party (whom already have the necessary interconnects to all the big name 
clouds) in order to gain access through them. Alas, as I just mentioned, we do 
have a strong commercial preference for going ‘direct’ into an official port, 
despite the initial outlay potentially costing more. Logos on the website, 
direct ‘self-managed’ fibres, no reliance on anyone else, ‘all our own 
equipment’ – the list goes on…

One additional reason beyond this, is that one of our customers require 
multiple 10G services and this would immediately consume a 10G reseller port 
with a 3rd party, so we would like to put some short range OEO/DWDM breakout 
close to the provider so we can add additional 10G ports with them as required. 
Along with, obviously, providing the small/medium customers with the typical 1G 
in 10G type of segregated/vlan based services which you would usually see.

At the moment, since we don’t do anything ‘cloud’ ourselves, we lack any 
knowledge of how the breakout of the cloud services work, at the 
commercial/ordering level. Right now, the customers are ordering the physical 
ports and we are picking them up with cross-connects or waves. We would like to 
order the ports but request for the customer’s services to appear on them, not 
any services for ‘us’. So we would pay for the port, but the customer would pay 
for the transit services running on it, I suspect. It is this (basic) 
understanding of how a reseller would work in this context that we lack, for 
each of the big 3 clouds. I was hoping someone on here may have already had 
this experience and maybe some not-so-easy-to-find URLs of relevant 
documentation for such a setup may exist?

All the best!


Robert Williams
Custodian Data Centres
https://www.CustodianDC.com
From: Clive Stone [mailto:clive.ston...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 November 2017 11:36
To: Robert Williams <rob...@custodiandc.com>
Cc: uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk
Subject: Re: [uknof] AWS/GCP/Azure


Apart from the overly “sales pitch like” email (which I will be honest, almost 
got lost as spam) - this is what IX Reach can do easily.  Tried speaking to 
them? They interconnect with the Cloud providers, and you can buy the port from 
them and split it off how you like.  Steve is on this list, too.

Maybe ask hem…

I’m sure other providers can do it, but that’s the one I’d go to first.


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