Mark, that's good to know. I never worked with Apple and so have no Apple doc in my collection.
However, the W0e below is a violation of the encoding and is a security risk. I think the algorithm calls for the shortest string, so people can't sneak in extra nulls- W0e W00e, etc. ;-) tex Mark Davis wrote: > > We used the term "internationalization" in Apple in late 85. We might have > also used it earlier than that, I don't remember. > > W0e n3r u2d t1e g1d-a3l, g3y a1d o5e a10n "i18n", h5r! > > Mark > __________________________________ > http://www.macchiato.com > ► “Eppur si muove” ◄ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Barry Caplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Rick McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 13:14 > Subject: Re: Historians- what is origin of i18n, l10n, etc.? > > > >From the books I looked at this morning, the term "localization" was > > very much in use in the late 80s by most vendors. > > It seems "internationalization" came later, and was more vendor specific > > until 92/93. > > Then came i18n. > > then came l10n, g11n, e13n (europeanization), j10n (japanization)... > > > > > > > > Barry Caplan wrote: > > > > > > At 08:35 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, Rick wrote: > > > >The earliest reference I can find to "i18n" in my old e-mail trail is > the > > > >following e-mail to the "sun!unicode" mail list by Glenn Wright. This > was > > > >Oct 5, 1989. By that time, the term was definitely current, as Mr. > Hiura > > > >suggests. > > > > > > I registered i18n.com around 94 or so, and the fellow, whose name I am > trying hard to recall (first name JR, Australian or British IIRC, red hair), > seemed to indicate the coinage was quite some time before that and he was > very surprised when I told him how extensive the usage was by then. > > > > > > I'm a jonny-come-lately when it comes to unix and other standards > history... is there an searchable archive of windows standards anywhere? How > about a cvs server of code? It seems to me that i18n or variants could have > made it into code as a function name almost immediately, or possibly even > before being put into a standards doc.... > > > > > > It seems to me that l10n was extant by the time I came to CA ~ 1992. > > > > > > Perhaps Ken Lunde can shed some light - he surely came across a lot of > early docs while writing his first book, which was a republication of an > online archive he maintained I think. > > > > > > Barry > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tex Texin cell: +1 781 789 1898 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Xen Master http://www.i18nGuy.com > > > > XenCraft http://www.XenCraft.com > > Making e-Business Work Around the World > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Tex Texin cell: +1 781 789 1898 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xen Master http://www.i18nGuy.com XenCraft http://www.XenCraft.com Making e-Business Work Around the World -------------------------------------------------------------