I guess so.  But keep in mind that FOCP is an organization like any
other.  And they collect dues.  So, for example, if you wanted to
spearhead the effort without dues, you could go out yourself and do a
lot of legwork and research, and then go door to door and let everyone
in the general public vote on your park options.  But it would still be
your group, so it's your initiative.  In this case, the idea has been
discussed within FOCP so they can vote to see how or if they as a group
want to lobby for it.  It's internal to them.  That doesn't stop any
other group from forming to pursue it without dues or fees.

I guess this means that if you are against it and you are a member, you
can vote that FOCP not support it.  If you are not a member, you can
contact your public representatives (city council, etc.) and express
your dissent for free. 


ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F
215 636-9989 | hillier.com

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Subject: Re: [UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Clark Park Dog Run Update

Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:

> I believe the point is to create a _public_ dog run.  We already have 
> a non-public dog run a bit farther west.  I don't understand Ray's 
> logic below because child owners do not pay to use the tot lot, and no

> one pays to use the park in general.


ok, my logic in asking what I was asking had to do with the public
process of getting a dog run in place, not with whether or not I support
a dog run.

here's what I'm getting at, put another way: if we're using a process
(voting/membership via focp) to create a free public dog run, then that
process should be free and public as well, don't you think?


.........
laserbeam(r)
[aka ray]
I love dogs, btw.














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