I understand the importance of eating at local mom and pop stores, and I frequent them often. But I actually agree that U of P should have some "fast food" chains that international and national students are accustomed to. Places like KFC, and Taco Bell may attract the wrong kind of people Penn wants in their neighborhood, but they are all relatively inexpensive for a quick meal. Also, you know what you are expecting.

As a side note, I have been asking my Uncle (who owns most of the KFC's and Taco Bells you are referring to) to put one in University city. He was having a hard time with Penn wanting only family-based businesses around. Well, there's a problem with that. Once you force all the low to middle income families out of the Penn area (because that is exactly what you'll do with only snobby over priced restaurants), Penntrification will be here at last! But to the opposite extreme. I think there needs to be a equal amount (or at least proportionate amount) of all kinds of restaurants. And the fact is, there is not one KFC, Taco Bell, Burger King, Wendy's, White Castle, Arthur treacher's, Bob's Big Boys, Denny's, Arby's, Chik-Filet, Pizza Hut, or other common fast food place you can normally find anywhere else but in the immediate University City District. So I actually support some other options that students can go to.

I am sure to get some emails regarding my opinion. But I am allowed to voice it even if it doesn't match yours.

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To: "Mark Krull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: [UC] Sad commentary



Who cares about "the element"?  If anyone would care, it would be the
university, and clearly they don't have a problem with the idea of
attracting "the element."  I'm totally grossed out by the idea of those
food choices going into the Moravian, and it's not out of snobbery --
KFC and Taco Bell food make me actually nauseous.  But more importantly,
THEY ARE TOTALLY BAD FOR YOU "(especially the KFC) and the university
should realize that students with little time and money will go there as
the path of least resistance.  The leadership owes it to their own
student body to provide healthier options, I mean, it's like setting up
a liquor store next to an AA clinic.  Jeez.  I can't get over it.  You
would also think the university would try to de-franchise their image -
I mean, what do they have on Walnut now?  A GAP, an Ann Taylor Loft, a
Barnes-and-Noble-student-bookstore, a COSI... The only non-franchised
stuff there is the White Dog and Avril 50.  Am I wrong in thinking that
a college town should have, god forbid, character?  I'm going to cut and
paste this mini-tirade and send it to the DP.

P.S. Let the record show that I agree with Al (!).


ELISABETH DUBIN Hillier ARCHITECTURE One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F 215 636-9989 | hillier.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:09 AM
To: Ben; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary

It might be that they are not as upscale and might invite the "element"
Thats my guess

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From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:59 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary

At 08:01 AM 4/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today's DP has an article about what's going into the commercial space
at 34th & Walnut to replace the Moravian cafe etc. IM(not so)HO, it's
either a sad commentary on the penn Administration for thinking this is

the way to serve the University and surrounding Communites, or a sad
commentary on the University and surrounding communities for this being

what they actually want.

I must be sad because I'm happy about the choices of what is moving in. While I've never been to Quiznos, I'm happy to see some of the fast food I enjoy eating being in the area. The KFC at 45th and market is scary and the one on Broad & whatever isn't the best. I frequent the T-Bell on City line which is nice but I'm happy not to have to drive that far when I'm craving these places. While these aren't places I say I go to often, it's nice to have them close.

What is the issue you have with them?

-Ben

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