Anthony West wrote:
Ray proposed that UCD "not take sides in public
questions/disputes/contests, not taking sides or even appearing to take
sides." Therefore, Ray is saying, UCD could only support projects with
which there was universal contentment in this community. And since it
only takes one person with a keyboard to manufacture a "public
question/dispute/contest", in an area with more than 50,000 residents
(at least on UC-list), this proposal is the kind of pipe dream that
flourishes in unrealistic internet communities.
I repeat: this standard is absurd, an impossible test to meet for any
one of the hundreds of organizations that operate in some sort of
public-private interface throughout Philadelphia. Any governmental
authority you might approach to put a chop on your regulatory proposals,
will recognize this in a flash and tune you out.
Anybody who wants to consider developing a regulatory network for UCD
needs to acquire a grounding of knowledge and common sense about how
actual agencies and actual regulators work. It will require real study
and real interaction with real people in the real world.
Pounding out an ever-expanding wishlist of single-issue edicts to a
single-case agency one doesn't really know anything about, is a childish
exercise in imaginary self-importance. Ray can do this if he wants. He
can hold his conversation with nobody, in public, if he wants.
and here you're back to arguing, this time with strawman and
ad hominem!
but instead of dismissing all this talk of 'standards' and
'regulatory networks' and 'universal contentment' which
you've brought to the discussion as argument, let's instead
see how it could be incorporated productively into our
thinking...
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idea #7: regular public forums should be held to generate a
set of principles, best practices, etc. that would
examine and improve ucd as a public service
organization -- in the same way that regular
public forums are held with the intention to
improve public entities like 40th street, clark
park, baltimore ave, etc.
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I think we're on to something here. good stuff! keep it coming!
..................
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[aka laserbeam®]
[aka ray]
SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES.
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